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This is genuinely gorgeous work. I love the logo on the back of the headstock.
What tuners are those? They’re really nice looking. |
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Schertler makes those, they are our new go-to tuners, smooth and lightweight. Steve |
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Thanks Tom, Jeff, and Jojobean for the comments.
It's been great getting to know this beautiful guitar. It sounds awesome now, and I can't wait to hear its voice mature throughout the coming years!
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Of course, I haven't played a lot of instruments side by side, or a lot of instruments for that matter compared to most of the people contributing their views! And I've increasingly become aware that humidity changes can alter the sound quite a bit in my own experience. Not to mention that all important player - the strings!! I need to keep a written record of when I do string changes and what strings are on which guitars...the strings on my 00 B&W Ebony/Spruce right now sound quite spectacular I think. And, of course, the player/listener's hearing capabilities, which vary drastically from a physician's perspective of doing audiograms over 30 years, that people have very different frequency perceptions!!! The other thing is that I've moved to almost all 12-fret instruments in my small collection, except for my Simon Fay AB/Sinker Redwood (the last of my 14 fret instruments). Probably mostly for ergonomic reasons, but after reading about the bridge placement on a 12 fret and how it affects sound, I think that is something to factor in. It certainly is a challenge to consider all the factors that contribute to sound - especially after reading the AGF Custom threads! Taken all those things into consideration, I still think the Luthier's contribution to sound (bracing, and working out the thickness of the top, sound or sound frequency analysis etc...) is a major factor. It all begins with the luthier's selection of wood also...so in the end, the familial likeness or heritage is definitely there!! And, having a 'K' on the back of my headstock is huge as well!!
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Great points about 12 frets
I need to look more into 12 frets. Only one I had was a Martin Black & white mahogany. Don't recall model but it was like new used from Guitar Center but I did not think it sounded as good as my guitars so why spend more than $1000 on that so I returned it.
If 12 fret enhances the bas that's great. For me it also shortens the guitar total length a bit which can be a bonus when you are really small. Been looking at used Kinnaird's from 2007 etc older models. Both have Adirondack tops so is a bit too much for me. That Koa sounds magnificent but I'm still not getting everything I want to hear from Koa. It's beautiful but it just does not have than magic that takes me into another world. Koa might just not be my thing. Very pleasant but when I go back to my guitar I don't feel those chills as the chords sink into me. Guess I like my guitar which is a GOOD thing! Quote:
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I think there are so many variables that influence sound, that just trying different 12 fret models compared to 14 fret models is extremely difficult...If you control all the variables (keep string type and age the same, top wood the same, back& side woods somewhat similar in terms of density and all the other things that make up the wood, and that it is picked out by the same luthier.....and most importantly, made by the same luthier(the key!!)) and just compare a 12 fret vs a 14 fret - then you're doing a good comparison. Obviously, the age of the guitar makes a big difference too, as the wood changes, and the luthier's techniques/build style are likely to change over time. And then, most importantly, the guitars must be played by you, and can't be listened to on YouTube...!! Because, only you can decide what sound you're looking for!
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What no magic formula! LOL
Daunting.
Would be nice if there was a magic formula but when working with a unique thing like wood & turning into a musical instrument is almost alchemy. I was hoping a 12 fret would have more low end but then again a 12 fret made one maker is not the same as a another. A 14 fret guitar might just have that tone one is looking for. Would have to have everything the same specs by a maker & hope they will choose the stock & tweak it to get the best sound but you can tap 10 sets of koa & none of them will have the same response. It's driving me mad. Luckily this used H&D Koa I was considering for 6 weeks was sold. I don't have to go crazy over it anymore. It was so beautiful & sounded really beautiful but it was missing something & that's the thing. A recording even the best is not going to replicate all the nuances. It probably sounded even better in person but did not have what I have heard at times in YT's & my guitar is recorded on a android & I hear it & it's chillingly moving. I guess I just want another but I'm a collector. Once I start something it's like an addiction. A guitar junkie trying to get a fix! I can't even play that well. Feeling depressed that guitar I was thinking about sold. I could have tried it for 2 days & returned it if it did not satisfy. It's look & something about it had a hook on me. It's sol & the world is full of guitars & they are always changing hands. No need to rush... Thanks for the advise. Quote:
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If you have the sound you love in a guitar you currently possess, then count your blessings. And then you can add to your collection instruments that won’t be rivals, but more in the nature of supporting staff. Then you can say in your heart, “Sure it’s pretty—that’s why I have it—but it doesn’t sound like THIS one”. (Or however you and your heart have dialogue.) Steve |
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A selfish plug here. If you want a way to compare instruments side by side and from various luthiers, to talk to the luthiers about woods, and bass and try 12 vs. 14 fretters side by side and have others around to discuss it with or play the guitars while you listen to them, come to B.I.G. That is exactly what happens there and Steve Kinnaird will be there with his guitars and you can talk to the man directly. There will be 30 plus instruments there to try. You will know what you like or dislike by the end of that for sure.
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Multiple crayons!
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I have different wood combinations on all the guitars within my collection--although I hesitate to say collection because I do play them all. I have different back/sides and top woods such that each one is unique with their own flavors and colors. And they're pretty much all different shapes and sizes... Why not use all the crayons in the box?!
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