The Acoustic Guitar Forum

Go Back   The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > General Acoustic Guitar Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 05-16-2014, 02:51 AM
nadiwhe nadiwhe is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 2
Default Anyone know what this guitar is? "Ariel"

Hello!

I was recently handed down this instrument from my great-uncle after he moved out of the country, and I would like to know more about it.
I did some googlin' (in-depth, I know) and I found a person wondering about the same type of guitar here:
http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/f...d.php?t=309759

The guitar has a tag inside that says "Ariel Guitars - Made in Japan". I apologize for the image-heavy post!






I am debating if it is worth fixing it up and taking it to college with me.

Thanks in advance!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-16-2014, 06:13 AM
Brucebubs's Avatar
Brucebubs Brucebubs is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Eden, Australia
Posts: 8,645
Default

Don`t know anything about your guitar but it might be fun to put a decent set of tuners (try and find replacements that fit existing holes-always looks neater in the long run) on it and maybe have a set-up done with a new bone nut, saddle and bridge pins, throw on some new strings. Might be OK?
__________________
Brucebubs

1972 - Takamine D-70
1980 - Morris B-50
2001 - Guild F-412
2009 - Martin Grand J12-40E Special
2011 - Martin JDP 2 #71/71
2014 - RAS kit #3 Dreadnought
2014 - Alvarez ABT60 Baritone
2015 - Kittis RBJ-195 Jumbo
2012 - Dan Dubowski#61
2016 - RAS kit #4 Small Jumbo 'Nashville Tuned'
2017 - Crimson SBG378HH bass.

Last edited by Brucebubs; 05-16-2014 at 05:58 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-16-2014, 07:02 AM
Oldguy64 Oldguy64 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Kansas City, KS
Posts: 3,387
Default

No real info, but it appears to be a 1960's MIJ acoustic.
Many were made inexpensively, but well.
You will find that there were hundreds of names, and probably two thirds of those names have been "orphaned".
__________________
A bunch of guitars I really enjoy.
A head full of lyrics,
A house full of people that “get” me.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-16-2014, 04:58 PM
Woodde Woodde is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Utica, NY
Posts: 58
Default

I was doing a little research and came across this post:

http://www.guitarsite.com/database/G...ages/430.shtml


someone posted at this link saying the company changed their name to Aria, and guitars with that name that have a model number and no serial number are all guitars manufactured before 1974. Hope this helps you out some.
__________________
Taylor 410 E-R
Epiphone Dove
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-16-2014, 06:59 PM
PTC Bernie PTC Bernie is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: PTC GA
Posts: 4,540
Default Aria vs Ariel

Aria started out as "Arai and Co." in the 50's when Shiro Arai founded the company. The only change that I'm aware of is the change to "Aria" which was easier for the western ear and had a logical musical connection.

I don't think they ever manufactured under the name "Ariel" but there were countless mid level guitars made in Japan in that time frame by an equally countless number of companies under whatever name they could get a contract for.

Hope that helps.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-16-2014, 08:59 PM
jseth jseth is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Corvallis, Oregon... "Heart of the Valley"...
Posts: 7,849
Default

Sure, Ariel has been around for quite some time, making inexpensive copies of various "tried and true" designs, both electric and acoustic. I always got them confused with Aria!

It is certainly worth cleaning up and re-stringing... I'd suggest using some 0000 steel wool and lightly (!) buffing both the fret board and the fret wire, always going with the grain of the wood on the fretboard so as not to leave scratch marks...

Adjust the truss rod (if you don't know how, google it! It isn't rocket science...) and throw a new set of strings on it, and you're good to go! The tuning machines may be a little funky, but if they work, they are good enough to begin with... you can always find a used set of tuning machines for not much $$...
__________________
"They say that everything happens for a reason,
whenever one door closes, another door will open;
the book says "To everything there is a season",
and this season is mine, at least, that's what I'm hopin..."

(Untitled)
(J.S.Sherman
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-16-2014, 10:47 PM
nadiwhe nadiwhe is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 2
Default

Thank you very much everyone! I'll see if I can fix it up myself...I've never really done any work but I will carefully research before I try anything.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-17-2014, 01:49 AM
Fatstrat Fatstrat is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 8,287
Default

Lots of unanswered questions to my mind. Was this a guitar your relative actively played? Whats the "action" like? (IE: Height of strings off of neck at 12th fret). Is the neck straight? Is the top bowed? Any cracks?
Alot of old acoustics that get found in closets after decades of non use are damaged to the point that repair far exceeds value. But sometimes they are OK too. If you aren't experienced with guitars, you should have someone who is have a look at it before you spend any $ on it.
I used to go to estate auctions. And I have seen people bid lots of $ on guitars that IMO were total unplayable junk.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-17-2014, 05:06 AM
frankhond frankhond is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,029
Default

I found this ad for an Ariel claiming it was made by "the great makers Matsumoto".

http://vintagemartinguitar.net/vinta...strings-2/4437
__________________

Lowden S25c - Martin OM21 - The Tool "Flying D" prototype
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-17-2014, 05:17 AM
Fatstrat Fatstrat is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 8,287
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by frankhond View Post
I found this ad for an Ariel claiming it was made by "the great makers Matsumoto".

http://vintagemartinguitar.net/vinta...strings-2/4437
OMG, Unbelievable! That's Hattori Hanzo's brother in law. Greatness runs in the family!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-19-2015, 12:44 AM
intahipp intahipp is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 3
Default

I have an Ariel guitar. The label says Ariel Model TG006R by Takamine. It's a 1970's nylon-stringed classical guitar. The “R” stands for rosewood. This a rosewood version, made in Japan.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-19-2015, 12:52 AM
Jerry D Jerry D is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Posts: 1,230
Default

How in God's name did you find a thread that's 11 months old, and why did you reopen it?
__________________
Acoustic:
Taylor 314ce
Alvarez AP66SB
Yamaha LL16R A.R.E.
Fishman Loudbox Mini

Electric:
1968 Fender Thinline Tele
2016 Fender MIA American Standard Strat
1966 Fender Super Reverb
2016 Fender Champion 40
2015 Epiphone ES-339 Pro
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-22-2015, 04:21 AM
Westy Westy is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Sydney Australia
Posts: 508
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry D View Post
How in God's name did you find a thread that's 11 months old, and why did you reopen it?
Easy they were probably searching the Internet for information on their recent acquisition and found their way to the AGF. Or used the search function which is sometimes the advice given for new members with questions.
__________________
2013 Gibson J-45
2012 Eastman E20d
2011 Eastman E20p
2008 Bourgeois Sunburst OMC
Antonio Sanchez Classical
Cordoba Fusion Orchestra Pro 12 Sp/rose
Kentucky Mandolin
3 Teles
1 MiM Strat

Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-22-2015, 04:36 AM
perttime perttime is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Finland
Posts: 1,112
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry D View Post
why did you reopen it?
To add relevant information on the subject?

Is that bad?
__________________
An acoustic, a couple of electrics, and a guitar-shaped-object
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-22-2015, 09:21 AM
David M123 David M123 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 784
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by perttime View Post
To add relevant information on the subject?

Is that bad?
Yes!!! it is horrible, heinous and horrific. Don't ever do that again! The thread police are on their way to arrest you and toss you in the hoosegow!

Seriously - there doesn't seem to be a correct way to deal with this. Many people will rail against the re-opening of zombie threads. Others rail against people starting new threads on previously disussed topics. And i would bet that if you did a Venn diagram, you would find a significant overlap between those two groups. About the only thing that is safe around here sometimes is just not posting.

Personally, I'm good with either approach. I just want to talk about guitars.

My advice is post what you want and if others don't want to play, they don't have to. Let them stew in their own juices.

I do find it interesting that there seems to be a spate of threads and interest about Ariel guitars lately. I hadn't heard of them before. I'm now curious what they are like.

Dave
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > General Acoustic Guitar Discussion

Tags
ariel, ariel guitar

Thread Tools



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, The Acoustic Guitar Forum
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=