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Old 07-29-2014, 03:22 AM
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Hello and thanks for all the great advice on the forum.

I'm quite new to playing the guitar (recently picked up a second hand Washburn D20 S/N). I have tried to learn the basic chords and am branching out - trying to train my ear to pick out the correct ones for songs.

I recently went to see Otis Gibbs and his closing song was a waltz type song called Karluv Most - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNqx...FEB67967184F38

I have been using the above video to try and work out the song.

I can see that he uses a capo on the third fret and that the first chord is a D shape (so effectively becomes an F (I think!)). After that it seems he bars the bottom 3 strings (Bb ?)but he then plays another chord which is the one I can't work out what it should be called. He seems to bar the 1st and 2nd string, play the 2nd string 3rd fret and 2nd string 4th fret. What is that called please ?

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Old 07-29-2014, 03:50 AM
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I can see that he uses a capo on the third fret and that the first chord is a D shape (so effectively becomes an F (I think!)). After that it seems he bars the bottom 3 strings (Bb ?)but he then plays another chord which is the one I can't work out what it should be called. He seems to bar the 1st and 2nd string, play the 2nd string 3rd fret and 2nd string 4th fret. What is that called please ?

Cheers
First of all! Don't bother transposing the names of the chords and confusing yourself

1st chord = D Chord (F after transposing). x x x 2 3 2

2nd chord = F#m (Am after transposing). x x x 2 2 2

3rd chord = Bm (Dm after transposing). x x x 4 3 2

4th chord = C#m (Em after transposing). x x x 6 5 4

I haven't got my guitar to hand... So may be completely wrong, but those are the first four as far as I can tell!

EDIT : To help you with how I came to the chord names - They are not full chords, just the bottom half of full barre chords (which I guess you name easily enough by now)?

F#m = 2 4 4 2 2 2

Bm = x 2 4 4 3 2

C#m = x 4 6 6 5 4
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Old 07-29-2014, 04:05 AM
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JThorpe - you're a gentleman. Thank you for coming back so quickly. I was miles out with the fourth chord. Is it common to play only part of a barre chord ? I have A LOT to learn !!!!
Back to practice those chords and work my way through the rest of the video. Aiming to make this the first song I can play all the way through
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Old 07-29-2014, 05:03 AM
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JThorpe - you're a gentleman. Thank you for coming back so quickly. I was miles out with the fourth chord. Is it common to play only part of a barre chord ? I have A LOT to learn !!!!
Back to practice those chords and work my way through the rest of the video. Aiming to make this the first song I can play all the way through
It's always a pleasure to pass on any knowledge I can! The guys here have helped me tremendously as well!

Do the chords sound ok then? Like I said, I'm at work so don't have my guitar to hand to double check

It is reasonably common to play part of barre chords (or parts of any chords really) - it gives a different sound, it is more focused and precise, whereas playing full six string chords make it sound (yup you guessed it) FULL and rich. Depends what you are going for really

Oh and its common for guitarists to ignore the bottom two (E & A) strings when playing with a good bass player - those guys can look after your low end for you, so yeah part chords are useful!

Keep doing what you are doing! Try to avoid tabs if you can, and learn a song all the way through, do not skip tough bits, stick at them. This way you'll become a much better player!

Also, since you're wanting to name chords, there are websites that can help you do this:

http://jguitar.com/chordname

J
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Old 07-29-2014, 05:08 AM
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The first part uses these shapes

Code:
D              Dmaj7         Bm or D6       A   G   A
E╓─2───────────┬─2───────────┬─2───────────┬─────────────┐
B╟─3───────────┼─2───────────┼─3───────────┼─2───3───5───┤
G╟─2───────────┼─2───────────┼─4───────────┼─2───4───6───┤
D╟─0───────────┼─0───────────┼─0───────────┼─────────────┤
A╟─────────────┼─────────────┼─────────────┼─────────────┤
E╙─────────────┴─────────────┴─────────────┴─────────────┘
Can you get the rest?
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Old 07-29-2014, 06:22 AM
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The first part uses these shapes

Code:
D              Dmaj7         Bm or D6       A   G   A
E╓─2───────────┬─2───────────┬─2───────────┬─────────────┐
B╟─3───────────┼─2───────────┼─3───────────┼─2───3───5───┤
G╟─2───────────┼─2───────────┼─4───────────┼─2───4───6───┤
D╟─0───────────┼─0───────────┼─0───────────┼─────────────┤
A╟─────────────┼─────────────┼─────────────┼─────────────┤
E╙─────────────┴─────────────┴─────────────┴─────────────┘
Can you get the rest?
Thanks Stanron - really appreciate you taking the time to show the chart.

I think he goes to a G then B major, C#, E, C# before going back to Em (I'm using this to try and work the figure patterns out - http://jguitar.com/chordname?string5...g1=4&string0=3

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Old 07-29-2014, 06:50 AM
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The first part uses these shapes

Code:
D              Dmaj7         Bm or D6       A   G   A
E╓─2───────────┬─2───────────┬─2───────────┬─────────────┐
B╟─3───────────┼─2───────────┼─3───────────┼─2───3───5───┤
G╟─2───────────┼─2───────────┼─4───────────┼─2───4───6───┤
D╟─0───────────┼─0───────────┼─0───────────┼─────────────┤
A╟─────────────┼─────────────┼─────────────┼─────────────┤
E╙─────────────┴─────────────┴─────────────┴─────────────┘
Can you get the rest?
I wanna know how to do this!

Are you sure he continues to use the open D for the 2nd and 3rd chords? I also think it sounds a bit fuller than double stops, however - you are far more experienced than I am Glad to see I was close!!
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Old 07-29-2014, 08:07 AM
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Are you sure he continues to use the open D for the 2nd and 3rd chords?
He does, which is what makes the 2nd chord Dmaj7, and the 3rd one D6 (Bm/D).

It wouldn't make a lot of sense to only play the top 3 strings; it's a simple "line cliche" variation on a D major chord. (Less boring than just strumming D all the time.)
http://community.berkleejazz.org/wik...hp/Line_cliche
(that starts with the same line used on a Dm chord; see lower for other ideas.)
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