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Old 11-11-2016, 09:30 AM
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Default Wild Horses - picking notes between chord changes

Anybody have Tab showing what notes to pick between/during the chord changes?
Bm - G
G - Bm
G - Am
Am - C
C - D

Maybe I just need some theory lessons but if I have it on paper then I can play it but I can't for the life of me figure it out on my own.

Thanks!
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Old 11-11-2016, 10:27 AM
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What do you want? Bass line movement or something else?
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Old 11-11-2016, 10:45 AM
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Never mind for now.
It does seem that all online lessons the teacher adds some picking but only explains the chords and strumming.
Shut up and Play does show some picking but in different tuning.
I always need paper tab to go along with video lessons.
The Bm is still not smooth enough to bother right now.
I was not awake enough when I made the original post.
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Old 11-11-2016, 11:10 AM
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That little walking line between chords is simply coming down the scale on the treble strings: C-B-A-G, strum. Tab-wise it is:

-------------------------3--------------
--1---0-----------------0--------------
-----------2----0-------0--------------
-------------------------0--------------
-------------------------2--------------
-------------------------3--------------
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Old 11-11-2016, 11:14 AM
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Never mind for now.
It does seem that all online lessons the teacher adds some picking but only explains the chords and strumming.
Shut up and Play does show some picking but in different tuning.
I always need paper tab to go along with video lessons.
The Bm is still not smooth enough to bother right now.
I was not awake enough when I made the original post.
Please do not take this as criticism but an observation based on over 50 years of playing and 40 years of teaching:

You have spent your time learning to read and apply tab. If you had spent an equal amount of time playing by ear you would be less likely to have to ask for assistance now.

Whichever method you use, good luck and enjoy the music. You've chosen a good tune.
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Old 11-11-2016, 11:32 AM
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Just glancing at it I would try G major E minor pentatonic scale.
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Old 11-11-2016, 02:11 PM
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You have spent your time learning to read and apply tab. If you had spent an equal amount of time playing by ear you would be less likely to have to ask for assistance now.
You would be entirely correct if my goals had been different. Starting at age 54, my only goal was and still is to be a very good "campfire" player.
My hand arthritis prevents barre chords and some use of my fret hand pinkie so I always look for ways to dress up open and other movable chords.
I do lack the skill set to do this on my own and I learn songs with video and tab.
I understand that the song Wild Horses that we hear is multiple guitars in varying tunings.
Thank you though for your reply.
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Old 11-11-2016, 02:21 PM
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Rwolf...

You DO have the ability to recognize things by ear. Everyone does. It's just that you haven't yet been shown how to connect with it.

If you can hear a note and sing it back with your voice you have the ability to apply that to an instrument with only a smidgen of coaching and supervision.

Sometimes the biggest hurdle is getting rid of the idea that you can't do something...
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Old 11-12-2016, 03:54 AM
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Keef played this in open G. Don't know if that helps...
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Old 11-12-2016, 08:32 AM
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I'm a beginner and watched this video yesterday, from my experience level I thought it was quite good.

http://www.guitarworld.com/lessons-l...-playing/30076

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Old 11-12-2016, 10:00 AM
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I'm a beginner and watched this video yesterday, from my experience level I thought it was quite good.

http://www.guitarworld.com/lessons-l...-playing/30076

Curtis
I have watched a few of his videos. I like his style.
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Old 11-12-2016, 12:52 PM
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As mentioned there are at least two guitars on the original (rhythm and lead fills), but some of those fills should be manageable while strumming.

This is the opening one (on the Am going into the G):

Code:
Am                                G
-------10-10-10---10-10-10\8--8--|7------------
-------12-12-12---12-12-12\10-10-|8-------------
(9)------------------------------|(0)---------
(10)-----------------------------|(0)-----
(0-------------------------------|---------
---------------------------------|---------
(That's a suggestion for an Am chord so you're in place for the lick. Finger with pinky on 12, ring on 1st string; then slide them down.)
You could play that G chord as x-10-9-7-8-7, if you can. Or just x-x-0-0-0-7 would do it. (Obviously in EADGBE you need to avoid those lower 2 strings - unless you can stretch to 3-x-0-0-0-7. Or tune 6th down to D and play 5-x-0-0-0-7.)

The fill on the G after the first vocal phrase (leading back to Bm) is:

-7--5--3-|(2)--------------------------
---------|(3)----------------------
---------|(4)-----------------------
---------|(4)-----------------------
---------|(2)-----------------------
---------|-----------------------

You could play it an octave lower as:

---------|(2)--------------------------
-0-------|(3)----------------------
----2--0-|(4)-----------------------
---------|(4)-----------------------
---------|(2)-----------------------
---------|-----------------------

On the second G (going into Am):

------------|(0)--------------------------
h1--1--0--1-|(1)----------------------
------------|(2)-----------------------
------------|(2)-----------------------
------------|(0)-----------------------
------------|-----------------------

(You should be able to incorporate these while strumming your G.)

After the first line of the chorus, you get this:

Code:
(C)     (D)      G
---------7--5--|-3---------------------
---------------|-0------------
----5/7-----5--|(0)-------
--------(0)----|(0)---------
---------------|-----------
---------------|-----------
That's tricky to incorporate into a C chord, but you could just break off the chord to play that - adding the open D string helps imply the D7 chord there.

After "drag me away", there's a similar phrase, but this time it repeats the 7th fret notes and comes down to 5th fret for the Am chord - so you could play that as the barre 5-7-7-5-5-5.

TIP: all of these may be easier to play with capo on 7, or on 5. Capo on 7 means the G chord is a C shape, Am is Dm shape, Bm is Em shape, and C is an F shape. Capo on 5 means the G chord is a D shape. (Go on you can work out the rest.)
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Old 11-13-2016, 05:23 PM
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As mentioned there are at least two guitars on the original (rhythm and lead fills), but some of those fills should be manageable while strumming.
Three, anyway. Two acoustics and an electric doing leads. Almost sounds like a 12-string doing the primary rhythm. The other acoustic doing fills and rhythm during the courses sort of sounds like it is in Nashville. It has been a while since I listened to Wild Horses with good headphones...
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Old 11-17-2016, 04:35 PM
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Three, anyway. Two acoustics and an electric doing leads. Almost sounds like a 12-string doing the primary rhythm. The other acoustic doing fills and rhythm during the courses sort of sounds like it is in Nashville.
Yes. And that was not the point of my question at all...
As I mentioned on another thread, my sole intention is to be a "good campfire player"
A simple treble (?) walk-down (?) was what I was looking for.
And still am.
Something to just barley dress up a campfire version of the song "Wild Horses"
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Old 11-18-2016, 12:29 PM
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Yes. And that was not the point of my question at all...
As I mentioned on another thread, my sole intention is to be a "good campfire player"
A simple treble (?) walk-down (?) was what I was looking for.
And still am.
Something to just barley dress up a campfire version of the song "Wild Horses"
I actually don't need your permission to respond to a post.

Now, as to your question: it has already been answered. Look to the tab in the other posts. To add walk ups and walk downs all you need is the scale for the key being played: G major. Several other posters have already given you tab for some of the possible walks. Or you could go to any one of a million sites that show scales on a fretboard, plug in "G" as the key, and see them for yourself. This is a skill that is actually pretty simple, and that could be applied to a lot of songs with variations by key.

Now, I noted the multiple guitars for a reason: the original performance does not use walk-downs, but rather has a primary rhythm guitar and two other guitars doing leads and fills. So if you are wanting to add walk-downs for a solo guitar, you need to look elsewhere. Looking at the scale is the easiest way.

Just look at the two chords that you want to travel between, start with one fretted note from the first chord, and "walk" the scale until you hit a fretted note for the next chord.

G Major scale; first position.

e|-----------------------------------------2--3--|
B|-----------------------------------3--5--------|
G|--------------------------2--4--5--------------|
D|-----------------2--4--5-----------------------|
A|--------2--3--5--------------------------------|
E|--3--5-----------------------------------------|


e|--3--2-----------------------------------------|
B|--------5--3-----------------------------------|
G|--------------5--4--2--------------------------|
D|-----------------------5--4--2-----------------|
A|--------------------------------5--3--2--------|
E|-----------------------------------------5--3--|


You might just learn something useful if you try this. Or not.
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