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Old 12-08-2017, 08:44 AM
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Old 12-08-2017, 10:42 AM
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Anyone who believes in Evolution has to feel we peaked around WWII...
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Old 12-08-2017, 10:49 AM
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Anyone who believes in Evolution has to feel we peaked around WWII...
I hope people have a better understanding of evolution than that.
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When I feel like that, I remember that we actually live in a time with the most prosperity, most peace, lowest crime than ever before. Unbelievable but true.

So to answer your question, the data actually shows things are not going south. That doesn't mean we don't still have work to do though...
Yep. pretty interesting how sometimes the reality does not really reflect the perception.

Now arguably cell phones might have have contributed to "distracted" driving being a higher percentage problem than it was . Or it could just be a more drivers on the road thing..

A higher percentage of rudeness or lack of awareness may be true also . But it also could simply be perception again stemming from there being more people, so more opportunity to experience it. Or it could genuinely a higher percentage be because more people more crowding and a greater percentage succumbing to a "Rats in Cage" type syndrome
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:26 AM
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I hope people have a better understanding of evolution than that.
Many of the more objectively inclined do, that's pretty much a rose colored glasses revisionist view .
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Anyone who believes in Evolution has to feel we peaked around WWII...
No, it was 1969. We landed on the moon, and there was Woodstock. Technical and social peaks.
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No, it was 1969. We landed on the moon, and there was Woodstock. Technical and social peaks.
I was going to say something about 2007 and the first iphone. Best to leave it.
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Many of the more objectively inclined do, that's pretty much a rose colored glasses revisionist view .
I'm referring to applying the broad term evolution (and the notion that it's something to be "believed in" or not) to a particular country's cultural evolution.
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Old 12-08-2017, 12:28 PM
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I'm referring to applying the broad term evolution (and the notion that it's something to be "believed in" or not) to a particular country's cultural evolution.
Ah I see. I was agreeing with your post and simply noting the "it was better back then" notion in the post you quoted, is far more subjective than objective .
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I don't think it was better back then when the poor, women, and minorities were taught to think less of themselves. It was common for these groups to be humiliated and kept in place. With any generation people react to where they find themselves. Society is just trying to make some sense of their condition. Things are both lost and gained. It's not necessarily good or bad, but where we live during our existence that comes to mold us. We must struggle and that struggle makes us into what we become.
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I don't think it was better back then when the poor, women, and minorities were taught to think less of themselves. It was common for these groups to be humiliated and kept in place. With any generation people react to where they find themselves. Society is just trying to make some sense of their condition. Things are both lost and gained. It's not necessarily good or bad, but where we live during our existence that comes to mold us. We must struggle and that struggle makes us into what we become.
Sheriff Joe Arpaio, and Harvey Weinstein, are today ... not 50, 60 or 70 years ago.
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Old 12-08-2017, 03:31 PM
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Sheriff Joe Arpaio, and Harvey Weinstein, are today ... not 50, 60 or 70 years ago.
70 years ago it was way worse. Read history. Arpaio would have been a hero. Weinstein would have continued to get by with it until he died.

Better back then is revisionist pap.
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Many of the more objectively inclined do, that's pretty much a rose colored glasses revisionist view .
Objectively, I see that throughout our species history, all the non-hackers died.

Evolution has no empathy. It doesn't cut any slack to those born in low income neighborhoods, those people afflicted with handicaps, people with substance abuse issues etc etc.

There are many people breeding today that never would have had the oppurtunity to do so in previous points in human history.

My opinion is humankind is currently de-evolving.
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Old 12-08-2017, 04:47 PM
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70 years ago it was way worse. Read history. Arpaio would have been a hero. Weinstein would have continued to get by with it until he died.

Better back then is revisionist pap.
Arpaio is a hero to many today .
Weinstein is only 1 of very many . His situation is like swatting 1 mosquito and then claiming victory over Malaria .
There will always be another Harvey Weinstein or Heidi Fleiss in the wings just waiting for their opportunity .
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