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Old 10-05-2017, 08:10 PM
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Sometimes there are things that your body just will not do, we all have different hands for example.
I had a similar post a few years ago.
My fretting pinkie wants to curl inward and almost under my ring finger.
No amount of practice will correct this.

I am not sure if this link is correct but there is a medical condition similar to what you describe.
Like anything else this condition can exist in many different levels.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinodactyly
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Old 10-06-2017, 05:58 AM
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I get it now. There is a place in the song where you have to play the G string open. I will try this later but I wonder how that might be... I suppose you will have to release the barre on the G then. I will keep your suggestion in my back pocket. For now, I am inclined to keep at the way it is done in the video.
I use the mini-barre for D a great deal, especially when playing other chords on the second fret. I also second the "people's hands are different" thing. But when I tried this, and I know this will sound weird, but when I thought of it as "hold a D," it was challenging, but when I thought of it only as hold down the middle and ring fingers (like the shape I use for open Em) keeping both my index and pinky free and wiggling around, it was easy. I'm just a beginner, so grain of salt and all that, but I find it matters which fingers I think of as having "weight" (like which foot you're standing on). Sometimes a shift of weight is all that it takes to make something work. YMMV
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Old 10-10-2017, 08:46 PM
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Sometimes there are things that your body just will not do, we all have different hands for example.

I had a similar post a few years ago.

My fretting pinkie wants to curl inward and almost under my ring finger.

No amount of practice will correct this.



I am not sure if this link is correct but there is a medical condition similar to what you describe.

Like anything else this condition can exist in many different levels.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinodactyly


Oh wow. Thatís freaky. I think it normal for the pinky to have a slight bend towards the ring finger but I donít think I have that condition. At least hope not.

Also just want to followup on the few folks that recommended the barre method on the open D. I tried and indeed, the stretch on the pinky is easier.

But I think I am making progress with the regular way, although very slowly.
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Old 10-10-2017, 09:18 PM
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...Also just want to followup on the few folks that recommended the barre method on the open D. I tried and indeed, the stretch on the pinky is easier....But I think I am making progress with the regular way, although very slowly.
Way to channel your inner ninja RR. For lots of folks, the fretting hand pinkie is very under-utilized; largely cuz it's pretty weak. You WILL reap benefits if you train its strength and flexibility.
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Old 10-11-2017, 12:27 PM
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Way to channel your inner ninja RR. For lots of folks, the fretting hand pinkie is very under-utilized; largely cuz it's pretty weak. You WILL reap benefits if you train its strength and flexibility.
Ha! Thanks for that encouragement. I had given up on this for about 2 months, but after posting this, I picked up practicing this again.

You said, pinky strength.... but I think it's also strength in your middle and ring finger so that I can have them pressed down hard enough in their positions so as to not be dragged along by the pinky.
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Old 10-11-2017, 01:12 PM
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....but I think it's also strength in your middle and ring finger so that I can have them pressed down hard enough in their positions so as to not be dragged along by the pinky.
Be careful about that.
That might be the way you are making some headway at this moment, with your overly dependent pinky situation, and that's fine for now if you feel it is helping, but keep in mind that pressing fingers down hard for this particular chord shape (D) and pinky movement, and so many other positions, is not necessary, and just creates needless muscle tension in your fingers, hand, arm even, which is never good in the long run.
I'll think you'll figure that out on your own once your pinky develops better independent range, but be mindful of that.
Finger strength is a good thing, but it shouldn't be used to press down overly hard.
Work on some finger independence drills in general, in addition to this particular challenge. That will speed up your pinky independent motion progress.
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Don't give up. There are lots of things someone's hands can't do today that with some effort, repetition and persistence will be able to do tomorrow. Your hands will, over time, begin to conform to the demands of playing.

As an example, I'd been working on Tommy E's "Mombasa" for some time. When I began there were two things my hands would not to; do a 6 fret stretch with pinky on the 1st string and index on the 6th. In about a month my hand started to conform and I could do it reasonably comfortably. Took a bit longer to get there in tempo. Similary another position in that same tune was to get my thumb to wrap around the 6th string relatively in line with my third finger and pinky. That took less time, but again my hand had to stretch out. (see photos).

That pinky on the F# is tough because our hands are mostly trained for the pinky to go on the higher strings not the lower. But stay after it. You'll get it.

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Old 10-11-2017, 01:29 PM
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Be careful about that.
That might be the way you are making some headway at this moment, with your overly dependent pinky situation, and that's fine for now if you feel it is helping, but keep in mind that pressing fingers down hard for this particular chord shape (D) and pinky movement, and so many other positions, is not necessary, and just creates needless muscle tension in your fingers, hand, arm even, which is never good in the long run.
I'll think you'll figure that out on your own once your pinky develops better independent range, but be mindful of that.
Finger strength is a good thing, but it shouldn't be used to press down overly hard.
Work on some finger independence drills in general, in addition to this particular challenge. That will speed up your pinky independent motion progress.
Point taken. I am mindful of unnecessary pressure when holding down chords. But in this case, I feel this is what I have to do to keep my middle and ring in place while reaching over with the pinky. But hopefully, as my hand adapts, this added pressure will be required less.
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