Open chords you normally use at higher fret

[mc1]

Originally Posted by stanron

Here are some two note 'chords' played as 'vertical scales'.
The numbers are degrees of scale. 1 is root, 3 is the third etc. In all of them you play 1 and 3 together, then 2 and 4 then 3 and 5 and so on. There are other ways of using thirds and sixths, explore. Move these patterns up and down the neck for different keys.

how do these relate to this thread?

[stanron]

Originally Posted by mc1

how do these relate to this thread?

They are combinations of notes played higher up the neck. Admittedly more harmonised melody than chords but they may interest some.

[mc1]

Originally Posted by stanron

They are combinations of notes played higher up the neck. Admittedly more harmonised melody than chords but they may interest some.

i think perhaps i was a little mixed up by the thread title. looks like the OP wants to play non-barre chords at higher positions. for some reason i thought he was looking for chords that are played higher up but also contain open strings.

[stanron]

The thread title does mention open chords and a lot of examples use open strings.

[pjroberts]

Originally Posted by stanron

Here are some two note 'chords' played as 'vertical scales'.
The numbers are degrees of scale. 1 is root, 3 is the third etc. In all of them you play 1 and 3 together, then 2 and 4 then 3 and 5 and so on. There are other ways of using thirds and sixths, explore. Move these patterns up and down the neck for different keys.

    Key of C      Key of G       Key of E
    thirds        sixths	 Compound thirds

             3         1   6     1     
   ╒═╤═╤═╤═╤═╕    ╒═╤═╤═╤═╤═╕    ╒═╤═╤═╤═╤═╕
   │ │ │ │ 1 4    │ │ │ │ │ │    │ │ │ 3 │ │
   ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
   │ │ │ │ │ │    │ │ │ 2 │ 7    2 │ │ 4 │ │
   ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
   │ │ │•│ 2 5    │ │ │•│ │ 1    │ │ │•│ │ │
   ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
   │ │ │ │ │ │    │ │ │ 3 │ │    3 │ │ 5 │ │
   ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
   │ │ │•│ 3 6    │ │ │•4 │ 2    4 │ │•│ │ │
   ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
   │ │ │ │ 4 │    │ │ │ │ │ │    │ │ │ 6 │ │
   ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
   │ │ │•│ │ 7    │ │ │•5 │ 3    5 │ │•│ │ │
   ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
   │ │ │ │ 5 1    │ │ │ │ │ 4    │ │ │ 7 │ │
   ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
   │ │ │•│ │ │    │ │ │•6 │ │    6 │ │•1 │ │
   ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
   │ │ │ │ 6 2    │ │ │ │ │ 5    │ │ │ │ │ │
   ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
   │ │ │ │ │ │    │ │ │ 7 │ │    7 │ │ 2 │ │
   ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
   │ │•│ │•7 3    │ │•│ 1•│ 6    1 │•│ │•│ │
   ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤    ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
           1                           3

I was following until this entry. Can you translate this? For example how would I make chords (what chords) in the first 5 frets of the C sample.

[stanron]

Originally Posted by pjroberts

I was following until this entry. Can you translate this? For example how would I make chords (what chords) in the first 5 frets of the C sample.

You play the notes in pairs. the first pair is the open E string (3 in the diagram) and the first fret B string (1 in the diagram). Obviously this is two notes from the normal C chord. (They are also two notes from G7 and Bb)

Then you play the first fret E string (4) together with the third fret B string (2). This is two notes of Dm chord.

The next pair is the third fret of the E string (5) and the fifth fret of the B string (3). These are two notes from the chord Em.

You move up through the pattern one note up on each string at the same time. In tab it would be;

Key of C, thirds       	 

E╓─0───1───3───5───7───8───10──12────┐
B╟─1───3───5───6───8───10──12──13────┤
G╟───────────────────────────────────┤
D╟───────────────────────────────────┤
A╟───────────────────────────────────┤
E╙───────────────────────────────────┘
    

Key of G, sixths

E╓─0───2───3───5───7───8───10──12────┐
B╟───────────────────────────────────┤
G╟─0───2───4───5───7───9───11──12────┤
D╟───────────────────────────────────┤
A╟───────────────────────────────────┤
E╙───────────────────────────────────┘


Key of E, Compound thirds

E╓───────────────────────────────────┐
B╟───────────────────────────────────┤
G╟─1───2───4───6───8───9───11──13────┤
D╟───────────────────────────────────┤
A╟───────────────────────────────────┤
E╙─0───2───4───5───7───9───11──12────┘

[news_watch]

Originally Posted by Long Jon

Me too, for instance in Little Feat's "Willin'", which I learned to play by someone showing me, before later realising that was actually a D

(I use a "real" D for the main verses and the slidy one just for the little slidy phrase).

It actually played in open G tuning there is a good tab floating out here somewhere

NW

[Jason Paul]

This video may be exactly what you're looking for. He's a worship leader, so his examples are Christian songs, but it's right on this concept. I was looking for information on this playing style a few years ago and found this video very helpful.



The way he shows it, the idea is more about latching onto the I, IV, V (and other chords within the numbering system) - rather than learning the actual chord names. And the position of the shape on the fretboard determines which chord number you're playing.

With this, you focus on "this chord shape in this position serves as your iii (III minor) chord" or whatever, and that idea extended - even though it may really be a more complex chord. Ugh, this isn't working in text - just watch the video.

To start simply, just make an E major chord, and move it up and down, you'll find what sounds good and what doesn't. Frets 1, 5, and 7 sound good (as do others, fret 2 has a cool dissonant sound.

Jason