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Old 03-12-2010, 12:09 PM
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I've seen lots of discussion of the sound of cedar and the sound of redwood. I could not find any discussion of the sound of Port Orford Cedar.

What does Port Orford Cedar sound like. Is it different from western red cedar? If it is different, how is it different? How does it compare to redwood?

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I've seen lots of discussion of the sound of cedar and the sound of redwood. I could not find any discussion of the sound of Port Orford Cedar.

What does Port Orford Cedar sound like. Is it different from western red cedar? If it is different, how is it different? How does it compare to redwood?

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Deleted due to thinking of Spanish cedar, which is a hardwood. Nevermind.

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Old 03-12-2010, 12:31 PM
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Thanks Howard

I didn't realize that Port Orford Cedar is a hardwood.

Has anybody played a guitar with it? What were your impressions.

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POC is a softwood. Like all the woods used for guitar tops that we call 'cedar' it isn't really a cedar. It is in the same genus as Alaskan yellow cedar (which of course, is not really a cedar). In the wood trade, "cedar" has been used as a common name for any wood (including Spanish cedar, which is a hardwood, and probably what HE is thinking of) with a characteristic pungent smell.

None of these wood has a sound. Guitars built from them have a sound when they are played. That said, POC is more like the spruces than it is like western red cedar or redwood. It is heavier than WRC or redwood, but with a very good stiffness to weight ratio. Very resistant to splitting. Tends toward a balanced tonal spectrum with good headroom. Sometimes described as being like red spruce, only different.
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Thanks Howard

I didn't realize that Port Orford Cedar is a hardwood.

Has anybody played a guitar with it? What were your impressions.

Jack
See my edited post........

Howard Klepper is correct. It's a softwood.

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None of these wood has a sound. Guitars built from them have a sound when they are played.

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According to this chart from Breedlove's old website, tonally it's more like a hard spruce than regular (western red) cedar.

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[quote=Sometimes described as being like red spruce, only different.[/quote]



I love this quote.

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None of these wood has a sound. Guitars built from them have a sound when they are played.
Yup, that should slow Forum traffic down a bit (or a byte) now that no one needs to ask what "insert wood species here" sounds like, or is better than "X".

Howard, can you come up with suitable variations on this theme that will deal with strings/capos/pick ups, etc.
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