The Acoustic Guitar Forum

Go Back   The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > General Acoustic Guitar Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #16  
Old 09-09-2011, 10:57 AM
revive revive is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Houston / Dhahran / Jakarta
Posts: 1,615
Default

What's the nut width?

I'd be surprised (and very impressed) if it's 1 11/16. And he's got huge hands. Maybe I should not whine so much about nut width.
__________________
Regards,
Chip

Taylor GS Mini mahogany/sapele with LR Baggs M80
Voyage Air VAOM-06 sitka/sapele with LR Baggs Anthem
Yamaha Guitalele black
Taylor T3/B honey burst
Fender American Stratocaster tobacco burst
G&L Fullerton Deluxe Legacy blonde

Gone but not forgotten..... ReviveMusicStore.com
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 09-09-2011, 11:26 AM
stuco stuco is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 373
Default

He could play a $200 guitar and make it sound fantastic.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 09-09-2011, 11:37 AM
steveh steveh is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,749
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Huckleberry View Post
I've played a few Matons acoustically, and they sounded poor, particularly for the price.
I met a really, really great player at a workshop a couple of years ago. The guy was a Tommy maniac and could play a ton of his stuff - very impressive. Naturally, he'd gone out and bought a Maton TE signature; it was awful. Truly appalling. Sounded like a cardboard box.

When the poor guy started listening to the other guitars (Sobells, Bowns, Forsters, Lowdens, Collings etc) he got really downcast. However, I made the very true point to him that I'd have swapped all of my guitars for 10% of his talent.

Cheers,
Steve
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 09-09-2011, 11:43 AM
earwighoney earwighoney is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 396
Default

I played a Maton 12 string which is one of the worst guitars I've come across at such a price. It had a nut so narrow it was one of the trickiest 12 strings to play and the sound was dull, flat and uninspiring. I've played some Epiphone 12's that sounded better....
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 09-09-2011, 11:51 AM
frankhond frankhond is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,153
Default

Dont forget The Boss, his 12fret Larrivee. It's all over his last album.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 09-09-2011, 12:08 PM
Glennwillow Glennwillow is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Coastal Washington State
Posts: 45,081
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by revive View Post
What's the nut width?

I'd be surprised (and very impressed) if it's 1 11/16. And he's got huge hands. Maybe I should not whine so much about nut width.
Hi Revive,

Tommy's Maton's are 1 11/16" nut width according to Tommy. He does have long fingers and wide finger tips, but he often uses his wide fingertips to cover two strings at once. He plays a 1st position Am, for example, with only 2 fingers and then has other fingers available for other notes, as needed.

Regards, Glenn
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 09-09-2011, 12:34 PM
revive revive is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Houston / Dhahran / Jakarta
Posts: 1,615
Default

Thanks for the info Glenn. That's pretty amazing!

These great guitarists are quite inspiring. TE with his huge hands and small nut width. Andy McKee with his small hands and regular 1 3/4 nut width. Different ways for different people, but the bottom line is they make the best use of what they have to make beautiful music.
__________________
Regards,
Chip

Taylor GS Mini mahogany/sapele with LR Baggs M80
Voyage Air VAOM-06 sitka/sapele with LR Baggs Anthem
Yamaha Guitalele black
Taylor T3/B honey burst
Fender American Stratocaster tobacco burst
G&L Fullerton Deluxe Legacy blonde

Gone but not forgotten..... ReviveMusicStore.com
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 09-09-2011, 01:37 PM
Berf Berf is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 721
Default

Not much support for Matons here it seems... having owned a couple I'd like to just chime in and say that to me they really do shine when plugged in. I've got a couple of newish guitars now that I think sound streaks ahead of my previous Matons when played acoustically... there's no comparison on that front. Both are fitted with pickup systems but I still think the Matons had the edge when plugged in (for me anyways). Cheers, Berf
Disclaimer: I am Australian so my ears may be biased!
PS. The smaller bodied ebg808 which tommy seems to play a lot I find to be a really comfortable and good looking design. If it came with a short scale I'd probably have been tempted.

Last edited by Berf; 09-09-2011 at 01:46 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 09-09-2011, 03:35 PM
darylcrisp darylcrisp is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 7,727
Default

i owned a BG808 Artist for some time a few years ago, 1 3/4" nut width and if memory serves, 2 1/4" (or maybe 2 3/16")at the saddle. It was AA spruce topped with australian blackwood back/sides(all satin finish). This model came with the best Maton pickup at the time, the AP5, which along with the UST also has a very refined sounding soundhole mike. Plugged in it was hard to beat, everyone who heard it or played it loved its sound. Unplugged it was a nice voice but quiet, very lacking in bass. The neck profile reminded me of Taylors in a lot of ways but still a little different.

The TE model had some extra embellished dodads on the fretboard(that "official guitar player" initials or something of that sort). If memory serves it had the AP5 pickup, cannot remember the wood combo. I played both and preferred the Artist 808, slightly cheaper and IMO better looking to the eyes. I didn't care for a few things on the TE model.

sold the BG808 Artist after i played a Taylor. lost about $600 on the deal as nobody had heard of them much here in the USA and i had to advertise on the TE board. came with a nice Hiscox case.

d
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 09-09-2011, 03:47 PM
rick-slo's Avatar
rick-slo rick-slo is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: San Luis Obispo, CA
Posts: 17,229
Default

What is a good guitar for recording, a good guitar live with some type of pickup added,
and a good guitar unamped played live can be very different things. Those big sounding,
resonant guitars can step on their own feet when recording. What works best also depends
on the style, speed and complexity of the music being played.
__________________
Derek Coombs
Youtube -> Website -> Music -> Tabs
Guitars by Mark Blanchard, Albert&Mueller, Paul Woolson, Collings, Composite Acoustics, and Derek Coombs

"Reality is that which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."

Woods hands pick by eye and ear
Made to one with pride and love
To be that we hold so dear
A voice from heavens above
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 09-09-2011, 04:54 PM
fulfillingsoul fulfillingsoul is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 473
Default

Interesting that Tommy Emmanuel uses guitar with Mahogany b/s for Studio and with Rosewood/Maple for Stage.

Extracted from http://www.acousticguitar.com/article/d ... 259&page=3

ACOUSTIC GUITARS (STAGE): Maton EBG808 TE small-bodied 14-fret flattop with a Sitka spruce top and Queensland maple back and sides, tuned to A-444 (4 cents higher than concert pitch) for slightly stiffer string tension. Maton TE1 Artist cutaway dreadnought with a premium Sitka top and Indian rosewood back and sides, usually tuned a whole step or more below concert pitch.

ACOUSTIC GUITARS (STUDIO): Larrivée custom 12-fret cutaway. 2010 Maton custom shop jumbo with a Sitka top, mahogany back and sides, rosewood fingerboard. Wayne Henderson dreadnought with a spruce top, mahogany back and sides, and rosewood fingerboard. 2006 Gretsch Synchromatic archtop made in Japan, which Emmanuel says “sounds just like Homer Haynes’s 1940s Epiphone.” 2010 Collings 01 with mahogany back and sides. Custom 2008 Maton EGB808 (“The Yellow Mouse”). He sets up all his guitars with the neck completely straight (no relief) with low action
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 09-09-2011, 05:04 PM
drcmusic7's Avatar
drcmusic7 drcmusic7 is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,932
Default

Here's a link to David Taylors facebook page with some photos and video of Tommy with his DT guitar.... http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001536955542

Kindly,
Danny
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 09-11-2011, 09:59 AM
fingerpickerguy fingerpickerguy is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Woodbury, Minnesota (30 minutes from Minneapolis)
Posts: 399
Default

I saw Tommy perform last night in Minnesota. He sold out a pretty big theatre, which is pretty impressive for a fingerpicker. he commented about only traveling with "junk" guitars. He leaves his pretty ones at home. I wonder how the Maton guys feel about those comments. There was also a demo guitar at the merch table that people can try out. Though I didn't try this one, i have played others. One thing that really bother me about them is that you can feel the seem in that two piece heel. I know everyone is going green and all, but I hate it when they use a laminated heel on an expensive guitar. It doesn't look good and in the the case of the Maton that I tried, it doesn't feel good either.

As for his performance, it was outstanding. He got a great sound. He uses some delay that really helps him get a big sound. When he plays his 2 pick up dread, he gets an incredibly HUGE sound. That bass is borderline overwhelming. Awesome show.

Chris
__________________
Fingerpickers: Pat Donohue, Bob Evans, Tommy Emmanuel, Stephen Bennett, Masa Sumide, Eric Lugosch, Martin Taylor, Joe Pass, Jacques Stotzem, Laurence Juber, Rolly Brown, Tuck Andress, Ted Greene, Woody Mann

Rockers: Paul Gilbert, Joe Satriani, Guthrie Govan, Richie Kotzen, Joey Tafolla, Blues Saraceno, Andy Timmons

www.myspace.com/serikulus
www.youtube.com/fingerpickerguy
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 09-11-2011, 10:21 AM
Ilovetaylors Ilovetaylors is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NYC
Posts: 2,190
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fingerpickerguy View Post
I saw Tommy perform last night in Minnesota. He sold out a pretty big theatre, which is pretty impressive for a fingerpicker. he commented about only traveling with "junk" guitars. He leaves his pretty ones at home. I wonder how the Maton guys feel about those comments. There was also a demo guitar at the merch table that people can try out. Though I didn't try this one, i have played others. One thing that really bother me about them is that you can feel the seem in that two piece heel. I know everyone is going green and all, but I hate it when they use a laminated heel on an expensive guitar. It doesn't look good and in the the case of the Maton that I tried, it doesn't feel good either.

Chris
I think a lot of guitarist and performers leave their really expensive guitars at home, and have a separate stage guitar.

Like john mayer and his traugott

http://www.johnmayer.com/blog/permalink/5423

why damage a $30,000 guitar on the road when you can easily replace a cheap one that does the job on the road.....
__________________
selling it all...
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 09-11-2011, 10:23 AM
SixStingString SixStingString is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Plymouth
Posts: 838
Default

The maton 808 paired with an AER is an unmatched sound at any dollar level. TE wouldnt be playing it if it werent. Ive tried his exact setup. It is awesome. Unplugged the guitar is so so but plugged in...perfection.
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > General Acoustic Guitar Discussion






All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, The Acoustic Guitar Forum
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=