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Old 11-27-2014, 10:01 AM
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Hi all, Although I've been a member of the AGF for many years this is my first electric guitar post and I am a little embarrassed to ask it because it is so basic. I have an electric guitar (Crestline) with one pickup and a VOX Pathfinder 15R amp. The guitar has a 3 position switch. No matter how I set the gain, volume, etc. there is always a hum so I assume that's why we have humbuckers. I just have to live with the hum correct? There's no way to reduce it other than getting humbuckers? Truth is it is enough to discourage me from playing the guitar. Jeff B
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Old 11-27-2014, 10:56 AM
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Depending on the type of pickup there are some things you can do.

I wrapped "Strat" pickups with copper tape over the cloth tape, grounded it to the negative lead and then applied copper tape on the pick guard and in the routes grounding all of them. My Strat was pretty quiet. You can also make sure you're using a decent guitar cord and that your amp has a 3 prong plug.
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Old 11-27-2014, 11:13 AM
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You might want to repost on the Electric Guitars sub-forum. Maybe get more responses over there?

Nothing to add re your question. I'm not smart about these sortsa issues.
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Old 11-27-2014, 12:24 PM
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Either more shielding in the guitar, a switch to a noiseless (stacked humbucker), or a noise gate pedal can help tame that hum. Make sure your power outlet is wired right with a solid ground connection, too.
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Most amps have switches to flip the ground line or make it "float" to separate ground hum. Check for that.
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It sounds like a grounding /shielding problem with the pickup. Get some foil shielding tape and use it to line the inside of the pickup cavity of the guitar. I would also solder in an extra ground wire from the pickup to the shielding you just added. That should really help. Also excessive humming usually comes from a cheaply made pickup so upgrading it would probably help immensely. Ultimately you're going to have some hum from a single coil pickup, that's why humbuckers were invented. Most of the time any hum you hear when not playing the guitar can be killed just by laying your hand across the strings.
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Old 11-27-2014, 10:27 PM
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Electrically speaking...hum can come from a LOT of places. Yes, the guitar and single coil pickups and lack of shielding are huge. But, so are cheap cables and florescent lighting. Does it vary when you take a couple steps? I'd suspect pickups and a lot of hum generators in the room (any motor, CF lights, etc.)

Shielding the guitar is a for sure step, but better pickups and pristine cables are the better route. Most amps today are polarized with respect to power and you're not likely going to see a polarity switch.

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Try rotating your position so that the guitar points in different directions relative to your amp or the wiring in the room, computer, or whatever may be present. Often you can find a sweet spot where the hum all but disappears.

It's simplest possible cause and solution, so the first you should try, like checking to see if the TV is plugged in before you call the repairman!
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Try rotating your position so that the guitar points in different directions relative to your amp or the wiring in the room, computer, or whatever may be present. Often you can find a sweet spot where the hum all but disappears.
Agreed. Of the many possible/probable causes for hum, this one is really common--especially when you sit and play really close to the amp, or facing it. I've gone from annoying hum to near-whisper quiet by just turning 45 degrees or taking a step back.
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Try rotating your position so that the guitar points in different directions relative to your amp or the wiring in the room, computer, or whatever may be present. Often you can find a sweet spot where the hum all but disappears.
Agreed. Of the many possible/probable causes for hum, this one is really common--especially when you sit and play really close to the amp, or facing it. I've gone from annoying hum to near-whisper quiet by just turning 45 degrees or taking a step back.
Absolutely. The transformers in tube amps can be huge sources of hum - one time many years ago I was wracking my brain trying to figure out why my strat was humming so much worse than usual. I was sitting right in front of the amp - and it was picking up the hum from those huge transformers (on a 60W tube combo).
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I had a bunch of unexpected humm from my Tele the other day. I've got a pile of guitar cables and had pulled one out at random. The 90-degree plug didn't fit into the jack well, there was some movement (in-out), swapped it out the other way and the straight plug fit securely, no more hum.
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I'm confused, if the guitar has one pickup why does it have a 3 way switch?
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I'm confused, if the guitar has one pickup why does it have a 3 way switch?
good question!!

another possibility could be a loose connection between the pickup and the pot(s).

i've also found a lot of noise when i have my strat near my computer.

a lot of good suggestions have been mentioned to try.

here is a history of crestline guitars. note that this is from the internet.

http://www.ehow.com/about_5066425_cr...r-history.html
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Old 12-01-2014, 10:11 PM
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I'm confused, if the guitar has one pickup why does it have a 3 way switch?
The classic example of this is the Fender Esquire, the one pickup version of the Telecaster that's older than the Telecaster name. The first part of this is a better explanation than I can give-- http://www.fender.com/news/the-esquire-pickup-switch/

There really is a big difference between the three. I never had any use for the third "low bassy" idea, but there really is a big difference obtained just by bypassing the tone control. A pot will reduce the high frequencies even when turned all the way up to ten. Or eleven even.

Modders have come up with different uses for a multiple position switch on one pickup. One obvious example is to split the coil of a humbucker, giving the option of a single coil sound, using a position on a switch. This is obtainable other ways, a push pull pot is a common one, but a spot on a selector switch is a good simple solution. Or a coil tap, which gives you different tone qualities by eliminating some of the winds of a pickup when engaged.

You can also have a three position switch and only use two of them leaving one as s dummy position, if you only have use for two options.

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