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Old 05-23-2017, 06:19 PM
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Default Intro to triad chords, updated

Here is a freshly inked chart of six movable chord shapes that will provide endless hours of variation possibilities to your arrangements.

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I do not know why the shape names are what they are. Its how i learned them.

1,3,5 indicates the note position within a seven note scale in any key.
Black dot is root note(tonic).

Forget the two fat strings exist for now. Later you can work them back in.

To start you need only to know the named location of the keynote (root) that you want. I suggest G to start.

Then pick a shape , any shape, and form the shape around that root note.

Make it really simple and just play on three of the four strings.

Practice each shape until you can smoothly move from one to another.

Listen to the way the chord construction changes flavor as the root note moves from one strng to another as the shapes change.

Then start usng it, first as the tag ending chord of any song you already know stone cold.

It will work its way into your life , if you're looking for a
This sort of quick start that gets you playing pretty soon (without requiring a whole lot of theory but getting it in anyhow).

Happy to explain anything not clear.
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Working those out as 3 string shapes is good too... just leave off the highest note or the lowest note.

It's also a good idea to work them out on the A D G string group and the E A D string group.
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The shape names are just based off what they look like. The familiar D triangle, the 3 note bar for the A, and the bottom part of an F bar chord.

Also, with the minor shapes just move the 5 note down one fret and you've got a diminished chord. Or move the 5 note up one fret on a major shape and you've got an augmented chord.
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Another cool sound is xx1323 and

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Working those out as 3 string shapes is good too... just leave off the highest note or the lowest note.

It's also a good idea to work them out on the A D G string group and the E A D string group.
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The the low note groups are EVIL shapes to form. I made that chart also and never use it.

I typically form the four string shape and then choose the appropriate strings to hit as the song progresses.


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Also, with the minor shapes just move the 5 note down one fret and you've got a diminished chord. Or move the 5 note up one fret on a major shape and you've got an augmented chord.


Thanks for the update! I will add that to my lesson plan for the advanced class!


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Working those out as 3 string shapes is good too... just leave off the highest note or the lowest note.

It's also a good idea to work them out on the A D G string group and the E A D string group.
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I did that for the first three treble strings and have found it really useful. This lefty version shows the shape for Major(M), minor(m), and diminished triads on the G, B, and e strings when you have the root on each string (6 shapes gives you all possible major and minors). The shapes apply to any root anywhere on the three strings. Likewise you can always add the octave to the note on the e string 2 frets up on the D string as Amy does. Chart shows the root, third, fifth, orange indicates B string. The shapes, of course, are the same as Amy's because they are the same strings. I have another chart that shows how the shapes interlock into the major scale as well. Very useful for learning the architecture of the fretboard.


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What tunes are you guys working on?
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What tunes are you guys working on?
I need a new tune to work on and haven't found anything yet to inspire me.

The last thing I added was "It's been a long long time" , a real pleasing standard that gets everyone singing on the repeating phrase. The melody was really simple to extract from the chord progression and I hope to upload a file to the Play section sometime soon to share with you.

meanwhile - i'm looking for something new.
genre - swing /blues/ country
tempo - upbeat, toe tappy
lyrics - whatever
melody - suited to harmonizing vocals.

my favorite songs have four chords or more, and at least one of those chords is 'fat' or 'altered' or whatever you call it when it is more than a basic cowboy chord in open position.

suggestions?
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suggestions?
For example on my tabs page (see below) you might look at the following tunes (there are midis or recordings you can listen to):
Scamp
Ain't Misbehaving
Feeling Free
Greensleeves
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I need a new tune to work on and haven't found anything yet to inspire me.

The last thing I added was "It's been a long long time" , a real pleasing standard that gets everyone singing on the repeating phrase. The melody was really simple to extract from the chord progression and I hope to upload a file to the Play section sometime soon to share with you.

meanwhile - i'm looking for something new.
genre - swing /blues/ country
tempo - upbeat, toe tappy
lyrics - whatever
melody - suited to harmonizing vocals.

my favorite songs have four chords or more, and at least one of those chords is 'fat' or 'altered' or whatever you call it when it is more than a basic cowboy chord in open position.

suggestions?
"It's Been a Long, Long Time" is a real sleeper. You're lucky to have found it.

I assume you're doing some kind of finger-style. You might find this Merle Haggard song to your liking. In C it uses basic first position...or close to it...in a striking way (IV chord to II7th), yet the melody line is very catchy and sews things together nicely. Plus he's a GREAT singer and writes just as well. Tempo is laid back but very strong at the same time.

https://youtu.be/IM6LlXzBU6w

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"It's Been a Long, Long Time" is a real sleeper. You're lucky to have found it.

I assume you're doing some kind of finger-style. You might find this Merle Haggard song to your liking. In C it uses basic first position...or close to it...in a striking way (IV chord to II7th), yet the melody line is very catchy and sews things together nicely. Plus he's a GREAT singer and writes just as well. Tempo is laid back but very strong at the same time.

https://youtu.be/IM6LlXzBU6w

Enjoy.

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That's a pretty nice song suggestion - thanks, i'd never have found that on my own, except by accident.

typcially, my ears are drawn to any song that puts these three chords in a row : (example in G, could be any key)

G, Gmaj7, G6

and then follows them with a diminished chord .
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For example on my tabs page (see below) you might look at the following tunes (there are midis or recordings you can listen to):
hey thanks for taking time to offer some ideas. I did youtube the ones i didn't know of:
  • Scamp - if the one from the disney movie, It's not speaking to me, but if it's a different song, please post a link.
  • Ain't Misbehaving - learned that years ago - it's current and active on my duo set list. Excellent example of what I like
  • Feeling Free - need a link please; search offers Cream "I feel free" (pass; not my style , but Belinda Carlisle does a really nice cover of this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPPIIA370eQ)
  • Greensleeves - sorry, it's a big yawn for me.
  • Three Steps To Joy - lovely instrumental; i'd probably never put in the time to please my self with the results; and i really want something with lyrics that could suit a harmonizing duo gig.
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That's a pretty nice song suggestion - thanks, i'd never have found that on my own, except by accident.

typcially, my ears are drawn to any song that puts these three chords in a row : (example in G, could be any key)

G, Gmaj7, G6

and then follows them with a diminished chord
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Yup, it's a winner. Can be done simply or, in the case of the bridge, either diatonically using I/IV/V chords or whatever descending triads you want to fill in.

As to the highlighted changes above: Carolina in the Morning is the first one coming to mind that can be done that way.

https://youtu.be/2DB2alPmdaw
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