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I am just starting to learn the fretboard. I know the notes on the E and A strings primarily because I needed to know them to find the root notes when I was learning barre chords. Now I am starting to learn triads on the top four strings so now I find myself having to learn where the root notes are for these thus learning where the notes are on these strings. In a sense, I am learning where the notes are while learning something else - killing two birds with one stone so to speak.
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I have seen too many students obsess over learning the note names on the fretboard by rote memorization. To the point that it robs time from concepts that imo are far more valuable.
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Curious, which concepts would you be referring too. Maybe I need to learn them
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It's an evolution of the ear and I cannot think of anything more important than pro-active ear-training. My method of learning was strictly an exercise in playing what I heard. The latter was the cognitive part of it. The importance of the former (listening) only occurred to me much later. At that point I'd already developed intimate knowledge of the fretboard up to the 5th fret, and had become involved in playing barre chords to a level as mechanically adept as my command of open chords. Now I play barre chords almost as a preference because it's like a novelty that hasn't worn off yet. But, the by-product is development of the ear for the upper registers of the neck. Mechanically learning how to play notes, without equal emphasis placed on listening intently to the sounds achieved and remembering them, is a near-useless exercise. I don't need to know the names of anything or understand the theory behind them with an experienced and knowledgeable ear guiding the mechanical skills developed in step with them. I can say I do know the names of the notes but that knowledge and $1.50 will get me a decent cup of coffee. |
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I am using a book by Noad "solo guitar"....I resisted learning to read notation for 50 years..this works. I spend a small portion of my fingerstyle lesson going over it...a string at a time! It is going to help a lot for when I am done with lessons...if that ever happens. So glad this roadblock has been overcome..I actually like it. When I was younger I didn't want to learn this...I wanted to play!! Now that I can play, it just enhances everything.
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When I shift my focus to the sounds I'm creating I tend to play a lot better, or rather, more musically than mechanically. I notice, for example, that my ear often ignores the bass notes in favour of the melody, but when I actually listen for the bass notes I can play them a lot more cleanly and in time. This significantly enhances the sound of the entire tune including the melody. Making it more clean and tight. As for developing an ear. I think this is going to take me a lot of time. I'd love to be at that level of just effortlessly knowing where I need to be next based on nothing but sound. |
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How to learn notes on the fretboard
I think how to learn will depend on the way you think about the music you play.
If you think note names then memorizing name and position is just memoriZation of 14 spaces along each of six strings. I think in intervals or play by ear , so the note names aren't so much interesting except as place markers for a key. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Years ago before I took a 10 year break from guitar I was learning loads of scales and the modes thinking it would make me a cool lead guitarist. It did nothing for my playing. You need to develop your ears and for me it is the hardest part of teaching yourself to be a musician.
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Why not use scales and modes to develop your ears? . . |