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08-17-2021, 09:18 PM
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Tom, if you're referring to my post, I'm not an MD, I don't write insurance policies, and I've never had need of chiropractic to have any personal experience with it, positive or negative. My comment was a simple statement of what my insurance policy says.
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08-17-2021, 10:08 PM
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I went to a chiropractor for about a year ahead of the COVID rampage. Had seen a PT for quite a while before then for my lower back.....L5 Spondlothesis and some arthritis. This was an old athletic injury which had resurfaced in my older age.
So for a while I did both chiro and PT, He took xrays and that's how my issue was discovered. Till then I'd had several intense episodes which really laid me out with both pain and ability to move. Initially he was really patient in leading me to the session where "adjustment" started and I'd spend about 10 minutes ahead of that on a "TENS" machine which puts electric waves via sensors in the affected area which is quite pleasant. Over time I grew a bit wary of the adjustments and kept seeing my PT on off weeks and then COVID hit and I wasn't able to see anybody. Shortly before that time, I reworked a few exercises with my PT and I think that conversation saved me through COVID. When we came out of COVID restrictions I made the choice to continue with my PT (very hands on a combo of massage and PT cranial sacral specialist) and stay with that specialist...she is a private business so no insurance, but I see it as an investment in staying active and pain free. My day....every day starts with 40-50 minutes of exercises on the floor and then walking through the day and staying as active as possible. My part-time job can be pretty physical and that also helps as long as I'm not doing anything stupid which I know will mess with my back. I see her about every two weeks or "as needed" if things flare up. So far so good. I enjoyed the chiropractor, but in the end didn't enjoy the adjustments and decided to take a slightly different path.
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08-18-2021, 06:24 AM
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I would never go to a chiropractor, so that makes me an expert
 ...Chiropractic is a pseudoscientific[1] alternative medicine[2] that is concerned with the diagnosis and treatment of mechanical disorders of the musculoskeletal system, especially the spine.[3] Practitioners of chiropractic are called chiropractors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiropractic Some of my friends love their chiropractors... they go every week  For years, until he retired, I went to a country doctor in a nearby small town. Now I go to a team of doctors in a new building on the campus of the local hospital. I was a little worried that some of them were DOs instead of MDs... One notable difference between DO and MD training is that DOs in training spend 300–500 hours studying techniques for hands-on manipulation of the human musculoskeletal system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor...athic_Medicine I like them, though... my cholesterol was up and they were suggesting statins, or some kind of diet-exercise change... so far diet has got me in "the good range" again. None of the DOs suggested any expensive wedge-shaped foam pillows or anything ...-Mike
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08-18-2021, 07:12 AM
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I worked with lower and upper back pain and sciatica for 10 years. Chiropractors visits usually left me the same or worse. My Chiropractor said I needed adjustments for life because my spine was unstable. The pain caused me to take an early retirement. A year after I retired I was frustrated and started looking for other ways to relieve the pain.
I read a book from our library by a back surgeon, Healing Back Pain, by Dr. John E. Sarno. Different pain levels in patients with identical X-rays got him researching why the differences existed. After reading the book my pain was gone in a few days. It comes back every now and then but I think about it and it's gone in an hour or less. It's based on the things that cause you stress in your life. Half the people don't believe it and get no relief. Those who read it with an open mind and really think about it get varying levels of relief. Howard Stearn and John Stossel are cured after reading it. They have Youtube videos with statements. It's your choice to take a chance and read it or Keep doing what you're doing. 10 years was enough for me. Good luck what ever you decide. I'm not a doctor or affiliated with the books author in any way. Good luck.
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08-18-2021, 08:41 AM
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As someone who had a back injury when young, and now the degenerative disc disease and arthritis that is in my gene pool....
Most of my chiropractic experiences and knowledge would call it chiroquacktic. Nothing has helped the problems like working at fitness, a well balanced diet, and low alcohol consumption. My nephew the most difficult cases surgery team physician wishes he could tell some people to just not be fooling themselves and get rid of the fat and make sure you have basic cardio health.
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08-18-2021, 08:59 AM
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Excellent post. As a retired surgeon and one with lumbar spine problems I can relate. I have never seen a chiropractor.Many of my of my former patients have with some horror stories. One thing: with any treatment there is a significant placebo effect.This was prevalent in my own practice too. There are many orthopedic "physicians" who are not surgeons. Basically family practice docs that spend extra formal training treating ortho conditions conservatively. Please seek them out instead of any chiropractor.
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08-18-2021, 12:40 PM
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For many different problems I watched the GI clinic hand out the same diet, so did the sports med clinic. In down times I can be bothered and think wrong but when honest I know everything works better including my mind when I'm properly fitting in size 32 pants! For your last paragraph a surgeon wanted to replace my knee right away. The physician in the sports med clinic said no. Do PT and keep fit first. That knee isn't really getting better but she was right. My nephew the specialist on a most challenging cases team jokes and is serious about saying "stay away from us because we're just humans".
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08-19-2021, 02:20 PM
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08-19-2021, 04:09 PM
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08-19-2021, 05:07 PM
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I've never been to one and I don't know much about the Chiropractors. I have no opinion. But I did have substantial experience with lower back pain.
Long story short, I had a sealy memory foam kind of mattress that I changed out for a sleep number 360 (scored a 50% off sale, they have them on and off). I probably could have changed to any sort of firm mattress with the same result. That was all it took for me. If you have an old mattress you may want to swap it out for a new one and see if that helps.
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08-21-2021, 10:33 PM
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When I was a teenager, sports were my life. However, I started suffering from severe lower back pain. On one occasion, I was sprinting and a shooting pain suddenly came upon me and caused me to collapse it was so bad. I sought medical attention. A medical doctor told me I had to give up sports. I went to see a chiropractor. The chiropractor told me the medical doctor was a quack. The chiropractor helped tremendously and I went back a time or two for subsequent realignment sessions. Then one day I was in the chiropractor’s waiting room and read through a chiropractor trade book/magazine that included some do-it-yourself lower back related stretching, posture, and alignment exercises. I’ve done those stretches and exercises ever since and have never needed to go back.
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03-20-2024, 02:53 AM
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I was at my wit's end with extreme lower back pain, to the point where I was seriously considering some pretty invasive options just to get some relief. The kind of pain that makes you wonder if you'll ever enjoy a normal day again without wincing at every turn. Honestly, it felt like I was just a step away from signing up for surgery or something equally drastic.
Then, in comes my buddy, practically dragging me to try chiropractic care. I was skeptical, to say the least. I had this image in my head of all chiropractic being quick cracks and pops without any real substance. But man, was I wrong. This back pain treatment took the time to really understand my pain and worked on it with such precision that I started noticing improvements. Last edited by MacDude62; 03-25-2024 at 03:34 AM.
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03-20-2024, 08:15 AM
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Zombie-ish thread, but a lot of dumping on chiropractic. I’ve been seeing chiropractors, as needed for 40+ years. At times when I’ve had a lot of pain, I might go fairly often for a few weeks, but generally it’s been more of an “as needed” thing. About ten years ago, I had a really bad lower back issue and the thing that ultimately helped was a combination chiropractic adjustments and traction table sessions. I needed a lot for the first few months, but since then I go every month or two just for maintenance. If I don’t go, after 2-3 months, the pain comes screaming back. As long as I go before I need to, I so really well with no more than minor tightness between sessions. Some chiropractors may be quacks. Many aren’t. I’ve lived in seven places where I’ve needed them over the many years, and I’ve run into a few I didn’t think much of, but I’ve always been able to find good ones in each location. I’d say a pretty similar ratio of good and bad as I’ve found with medical doctors…
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03-21-2024, 01:23 PM
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I’ve had back pain for nearly 35 years. It goes from manageable to debilitating, with the latter occurring with increasing frequency as I get older. I’ve been to several surgeons, all of whom told me they could not guarantee they could eliminate my pain. I went to one Chiropractor when I was first injured and the most memorable event from that was he made a big deal about the thickness of my wallet. Whatever.
The only relief I’ve had has been through stretching exercises that strengthened my core stomach muscles which support the back. Back pain is not something I would wish on anyone. I wish you well OP
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