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Personally I do not buy into the myth that a mic can be "to good" for a beginner .
Any more than I buy into the concept that a guitar can be to good They are just tools, the notion that someone should start with less than the best tool they can afford is specious . That: said the other side of coin is the notion of work with what you have, just start working , has merit. Especially since you already have the mic's. You are not going to lose out on anything by using them as your learning tools. I think the 420 and the 170 are fine to get started with. As you said there is lot to learn and those mic are not going to inhibit that in any way. That does not mean at some point you can't investigate getting something different. But the point is , it's a long journey and it starts with taking a single step at a time .
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My philosophy is that if I don't like the sound I'm getting while recording, I won't like it any better on playback. Therefore, I'll fine tune with mic choice, placement, and eq on the way in so as to have fewer problems on the way out. I draw the line at compression which I only do as needed on remix.
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sound better with more or less low end. Also I generally low cut at a lower frequency than my mikes begin their low cut at.
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It's working for you with that mic and that guitar in that room, which is great. But I'd hesitate to call it a recommended practice for everyone else.
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A couple more questions if you'll indulge me... Should I be thinking about getting a second mic of either the P170 or P420 to approximate "matched pairs"? Also would I benefit from upgrading my interface? I'm currently running with a M-Audio M-Track, shown below.
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Obviously some people disagree strongly with my opinion, but I've done numerous same source level matched mic comparisons that demonstrate the minute audible difference between decent mics. http://www.homebrewedmusic.com/2009/...on-a-tutorial/ http://www.homebrewedmusic.com/2009/...ur-more-clips/ Fran
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Those 3 demos are a compelling argument. You make those mics sound very, very similar.
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Just this thread has shown me a lot. I'll have to digest it piece by piece to keep my eyes from glazing over. I hate learning new software. The software I'm really good at I've been at for 20 years. It all started off with simple things then GRADUALLY added more advanced stuff to add to the trick box. Here I am now, faced with full blown advanced programs. Feels like drinking from a fire hose.
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I'd venture to say that if you take two mics with the same pattern and transducer tech, place them close to each other, and use a 1 khz tone to match levels carefully, you'll find the same similarities I did. I have to admit that I find mics fascinating, and I've bought way too many of them, but my recordings didn't improve based on the price of those mics. My recordings improved because I did a lot of recording (and treated my room and learned to manage tracking levels properly). Fran
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If you are satisfied with your interface, no reason to upgrade at this point. You'll have to spend quite a bit more money for any noticeable upgrade to preamps or A-D converters.
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