Yamaha FG talk: Considerable difference between laminated nato, and rosewood?

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[QUOTE=Fret Buzz;3000942][QUOTE]

CPX vs. FG: different body depths.


I just measured mine (see sig). Both are 4 3/8" deep at the bass bout. The CPX-500, however, has a shallower body if I'm not mistaken.

[seeker]

I have played a few 720s and 730s, all within the past 5 years or so. Overall I'd agree that the 730 is somewhat warmer and more complex. I generally prefer the typical rosewood tone, but bought my 720 because it was the best sounding guitar among the 20 or so that I played that day. I was headed out on a long road trip and wanted a "travel guitar" immediately. No regrets whatsoever--I enjoy my 720 every time I pick it up.

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CPX vs. FG: different body depths.


I just measured mine (see sig). Both are 4 3/8" deep at the bass bout. The CPX-500, however, has a shallower body if I'm not mistaken.

That was my point.

[Weird Snake Joe]

I've never been a fan of nato. Regardless of its "worthiness," I've never heard it not sound thin or tinny, and it's abundance in the budget realm but virtual absence in the mid- to top-level instrument (mass) construction has me wondering if us snobs are keeping it down, or it's understood in some production circles that it shouldn't be a featured component wood on a guitar.

I do appreciate what Yamaha does to sell good instruments at affordable prices, but, to my tastes, nato's the dud. Birch and cherry could get you *near* maple, or something pleasantly unique in its own right, kind of like sapele does to mahogany, or ovangkol to a rosewood, but nato is like an imitation of an imitation.

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[QUOTE=Fret Buzz;3001225][QUOTE][QUOTE=seeker;3001168]

Originally Posted by Fret Buzz

That was my point.

Sorry, I thought you meant _all_ CPX models have the shallower body. I misunderstood.

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Originally Posted by seeker

Sorry, I thought you meant _all_ CPX models have the shallower body. I misunderstood.

Actually my fault...

[steveyam]

[QUOTE=Fret Buzz;3000942]

CPX vs. FG: different body depths.

In a addition to the opinions stated here, there are a lot of reviews of the FG700S...quite a few of them written by folks with high-end stuff. I would urge skatalite to read through them.

Right, so I'm waxing lyrically about nato as a tonewood (which won't be visible here but if anyone cares to scroll back, you'll see it), and you quote me (on that (nato) subject) in a response that appears to invite comment re the body depths of CPX and FG guitars. Ok, I give in, nato vs body depths - what's the link?

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Originally Posted by Fret Buzz

Right, so I'm waxing lyrically about nato as a tonewood (which won't be visible here but if anyone cares to scroll back, you'll see it), and you quote me (on that (nato) subject) in a response that appears to invite comment re the body depths of CPX and FG guitars. Ok, I give in, nato vs body depths - what's the link?

Even when you're discussing definitely better tonewoods, build, design matters, affects tone. Not saying nato is "great." Simply saying I think nato benefits from the deeper body design with the current FG's. That's it. Nothing astounding here.

Do you frequently comment on nato in connection with the CPX? Maybe that's it. As in post 9? Other people have FG's with nato that sound different unplugged...that's all.

Not a nato defense treaty...

[skatalite]

Wow, thanks for all of the responses. I'm even more eager to try an FG700 now than I was 24 hours ago!

But not even the local Guitar Center has one. Blah!

[edman]

I had a chance to compare a new FG730 and a new FG700 in my home a few weeks ago.

Honestly, I didn't notice a big difference in tone. I preferred the look of the FG730 over the FG700, but would not give either an edge on tone. My suggestion is to buy something other than the FG700 or FG720 if you are looking for something that sounds different than your FG730.

[Lazmo]

Originally Posted by edman

My suggestion is to buy something other than the FG700 or FG720 if you are looking for something that sounds different than your FG730.

+1 ... the 720 and 730 are very similar

[steveyam]

[QUOTE=Fret Buzz;3001699][QUOTE]

Originally Posted by steveyam

Even when you're discussing definitely better tonewoods, build, design matters, affects tone. Not saying nato is "great." Simply saying I think nato benefits from the deeper body design with the current FG's. That's it. Nothing astounding here.

Do you frequently comment on nato in connection with the CPX? Maybe that's it. As in post 9? Other people have FG's with nato that sound different unplugged...that's all.

Not a nato defense treaty...

I understand now. Good point.