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Amp for archtop question
Need to pick your brains please. Now that I have my first archtop with a floating pickup, I know my fishman loudbox mini is not really the best amp for getting the best tone from this guitar. D,Angelico Excel 25.5 scale
Budget is fairly tight, so in your opinion what would be a good amp that wont break the bank ? Would love a tube amp, but I dont think I can afford that. Looking forward to hearing your wisdom and opinions. Thanks !!!! |
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Mini
I use the Loudbox Mini for both my Gibson ES-175 and my Eastman Ar610 Acoustic. I use a clip on microphone with the Eastman.
I like it and see no need for any other. Live with it for a while.
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Rivera jazz suprema, Milkman 40 watt mini, a ‘65 fender vibro champ are what I float around with.
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Polytone Mini-Brute, the classic jazz amp, can be found for small bux sometimes, as these days many don't know what it is
110 watts RMS into 4 ohms 12" or 15" speaker Dual Channel Individual EQ controls, and Hammond 3 spring reverb 3 position Bright/Dark switch Two inputs (high/low) Pre-Amp output Exterior Speaker Out (also used for headphone jack) 15.5"H x 14"W x 10"D
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Quote:
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=611705 https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=611815 https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/V5Infinium https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/V22InfiCombo https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/V55Infinium The first two get a lot of love over on TDPRI, and although those guys/gals aren't generally jazzers they do know something about good electric guitar tone - and how to get it at a price; as far as the Bugeras are concerned I own, use - and swear by - the V5 and V22. FWIW as a former student of Jack Wilkins I'm also a lifetime fan of classic "big clean" electric-archtop tone, and while the V5 makes a great home practice/recording/low-volume rehearsal amp (built-in attenuator lets you power down to 0.1W, or use the headphone out) the V22 will cover just about any stage situation you're likely to face, in any style, at any volume you're likely to need - as well as having the ability to power down to late-night practice levels that won't have your S.O. texting Lorena Bobbitt for technical advice ; if you still feel you need more headroom/punch the V55 will deliver in spades, powers down to more subdued levels like its smaller counterparts, is well under $500 - and you're not going to find anything with comparable features/performance without spending a whole lot more of your hard-earned bucks... FYI: Should you decide to go for one of the Bugera combos, I can recommend a couple low-/no-skill DIY tweaks that I've done on both of mine that'll give you an even more archtop-friendly "vintage" tone, as well as additional clean headroom/volume (think mid-60's Ampeg NYC studio "Key Club" Gemini II/B-12XT) - feel free to PM me when/if you do...
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You may have read my recent posts on the subject.
With just a minihumbucker, the musicman rp65 112 with a musicman labelled speaker is very warm and dynamic. Excellent tone and grabngo weight. It does not sound great with the bridge piezo. Too smooth and bluesy greasiness. My Peavey Heritage is a more generalist of an amp... with its two channels of eq I can dial in both pickup and piezo tones that meet my satisfaction. Heavy but could be reworked as a head and cab. I paid 100 buck for it...and its a fantastic amp in nearly every application. I wasnt as fond of my 72 SF Fender Bandmaster through a JBL 2x12 closed back cab, but I believe there is abundant potential with the right speakers and cabinet. |
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Haha...
My matching blue silver grillcloth jbl 2x12 isnt going anywhere. The cab was designed volumetrically around oxfords in a closed back config. The guy i bought it from had put the k120s in it but didnt love it. Speakers might not even be broken in in spite of the age...because he had a cab with e120s which he liked better because he played a strat with gain pedals. I definately hear the potential with this amp and cab. I think I may experiment with a semi open back that would let the cabinet breath a little. Otoh.. Theres another guy i know selling a k130f in its oem fender open back cab... But wont separate it from the rest of his rig in the sale and the package is overpriced... Thatvwpuld be my dream cab... Love the 130 series.. I will get to the bottom of my bandmaster rig. I just cut a front speaker baffle for it as an experimental conversion to a 2x8 combo that... If it sounds good... Would be a perfect rig for my restaurant gigs. You and I definately have found similar things with the MM. The amp has a very narrow niche.. But when the stars line up... Its very impressive... But I would not say its a good general purpose amp... My sense is that the speaker has certain hyped characteristics that can make it sound as bad as it does good depending. Peaveys are totally underappreciated. Someday Peavey built OEM speakers will be recognized as having been some of the best speakers ever made. Last edited by Tommy_G; 11-13-2017 at 12:31 AM. |
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I've recently acquired one of these new Boss Katana 1x12 combos and at 50 watts is ideal for anything. You can get adventurous with it if you want, but using just the normal EQ I get a nice jazzy sound from my Eastman AR371CE.
Cheap too (new) and grab-and-go weight. Try one. |
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Without knowing the tone you seek, recommendations are pointless. Do you want a fast-response, articulate, hi-fi, overtone-loaded sound? Do you want a more focused, fundamental-dominated tone? The range of suggestions above can be summarized pretty much as "anything except a Boogie or Marshall." You need to give us more to go on -- and perhaps need to decide more yourself. Personally, I like a simple, clean tube amp and relay on all the other elements to shape my tones.
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I mostly play my archtop through an old Fender Princeton(15watts). It has plenty of power for most of the work I do. The music I play with it is Western Swing, Blues, Country and Americana, and it sounds great for that stuff. I get a lot of compliments on the tone.
My guitar, a 70's Ibanez L5 knock off, is equipped with a floating Gibson Johnny Smith pickup and strung with D'Addario Flatwound strings. I also use a Vibrolux(35watts) for louder gigs, and it works well too. I like a fat, crisp tone with plenty of starch, along the lines of Kenny Burrell's sound. My big surprise has been how good the guitar sounds straight into a Bose L1 Compact. Very comparable to my tube amps, and I gig this way for my duo work. The recent acquisition of a Bose T1 mixer has even improved on what is possible. Last edited by Pnewsom; 11-24-2017 at 08:26 AM. |
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+1 on the Princeton. Also you might look at the relatively new Henriksen "The Bud". It has gotten very good reviews and is small and powerful.
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Wow! Beautiful guitar. Superb playing. I'm going to get the book mentioned. Thanks for taking the time and sharing.
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[QUOTE=Steve DeRosa;5530128]Think again:
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=611705 https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=611815 https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/V5Infinium https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/V22InfiCombo https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/V55Infinium Steve, thanks for the heads up on the amps. I now have the Monoprice 15W and am very happy with it. Peter |