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Give Credit for Inspiration When It's Due
Aloha Ryosuke,
Beautiful rosette concept & craftsmanship on a Jeff Elliot carved/solid wood design. alohachris Last edited by alohachris; 08-07-2017 at 02:42 PM. Reason: rule 1 |
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[QUOTE=alohachris;5436407]Aloha Ryosuke,
Beautiful rosette concept & craftsmanship.
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It won’t always be like this. Last edited by CoolerKing; 08-07-2017 at 02:07 PM. Reason: deleted quote and reason for response |
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easy kids. Please remember rule #1.
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No Implication At All
Aloha FLRon,
The answer to your first question is Yes. And I have given Martin credit whenever my guitars copied any part of their designs. People here give credit when they copy Linda Manzer's Wedges, Jason Kostal's "Stained Glass" Rosettes, Novak's scales, or Ervin's bridge or Modified Dreadnaught designs. But Jeff Eliot's carved rosettes were unlike anything else in the steel-string acoustic guitar world before he began doing it in the 80's. I just wanted to ensure that others looking at Ryo's rosette design here knew where it came from, since it wasn't forthcoming from him. Not insinuating anything, only clarifying. alohachris Last edited by alohachris; 08-07-2017 at 02:42 PM. |
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The rosette is magnificent in both execution and design. The world would be a lesser place if Ryo was not practicing his art as freely as he does. I know it can be a point of vigorous debate, but I am a proponent of the Free Culture Movement that posits that copying is not only, not theft, it is not unethical.
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Ryosuke Kobayashi for The Woodstock Invitational Luthiers Showcase 2017
Thank you JS Denvir san!
Thank you very much! Thank you Tom-san! Thank you FLRon san! I'll post more photos. I hope you enjoy this thread! Thank you Diamondave san!
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Ryosuke Kobayashi for The Woodstock Invitational Luthiers Showcase 2017
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It took about 8 hours only to carve out when I did for the first time. I practiced over and over and now it takes about 80 minutes. As you said, it might be kind of Zen. Haha. You're right. I actually do this listening to Bach cello suits, though:P Wow... Thank you very much! I think I'm getting better little by little I was inspired by old lute rosette design, Ervin's carving work and Mr.Elliott's carving work. Thank you very much! Quote:
I can never re-do carving once I carve. Thank you very much. I hope you enjoy this thread
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Ryosuke Kobayashi for The Woodstock Invitational Luthiers Showcase 2017
Thank you very much Anthony san!
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I'm looking forward to seeing you in Woodstock.
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Ryosuke Kobayashi for The Woodstock Invitational Luthiers Showcase 2017
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Yes, I was inspired by old lute rosette, Ervin's carving work and Mr.Elliott's carving work. [QUOTE=FLRon;5436434]Thank you very much FLRon san! Aloha! Oh, I guess something had happened here when I wasn't here... I feel sorry if someone felt bad while the arguing... Quote:
I thought almost everyone know Mr.Elliott's work here since he's based in the U.S.. If you felt something bad, I apologize. Although, there're lots of "inspired" design out there like Michi's original rosette design and Sergei's original solid wooden ring rosette. I'm not sure I had to mention about that I should have mentioned that I had been inspired by old lute rosettes, Ervin's rosettes, and Mr.Elliott's rosettes. Ples, to tell the truth, when I designed my rosette about 10 years ago, I actually didn't know Mr.Elliott's design. Here's my early design patterns. And I had practiced and modified the design over and over since then, and I finally reached the current design about 5 years ago because my design motto is "Design of Subtraction." I tried to simplified as much as I could. I was surprised when I first saw Mr.Elliott's rosette after I had designed my own.... In my opinion he is definitely the first guy who designed the pattern but actually mine is a bit different. Each triangles which is carved out is knot Right-angled isosceles triangle. The widths of the wooden ring and strips are way different. Oh, I am sorry about my poor English... Anyways I am glad to hear your opinion. There're must be some people who have the same opinion as yours. Sometimes it's kind of hard for me to try to do business in the U.S. but I think I learned something here. I appreciate it. I hope you enjoy this thread. Thank you very much again.
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Ryosuke Kobayashi for The Woodstock Invitational Luthiers Showcase 2017
Thank you very much for viewing everyone.
Shaping the back reinforcement. Tuning the back. Assembled. Routed the channels of binding and purfling strips. The body is bound! Thank you very much for viewing!
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Ryosuke Kobayashi for The Woodstock Invitational Luthiers Showcase 2017
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I feel sorry if someone felt bad through this thread and my build...
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Ryosuke Kobayashi for The Woodstock Invitational Luthiers Showcase 2017
Thank you for viewing.
Carving the neck. Adjusting the neck angle. The neck carving is pretty much done. It's time to final sand before french polishing. Started french polishing. The first session is done.
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Looking great already with just one session!!! The rosette really came to life.
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Really like the graceful neck transition down by the heel.
Beautiful guitar all around!
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