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NGD - Taylor 712 ceN
This is a little bit of a repeat as I posted it in the general forum, but since it's a nylon string NGD I thought I would post here as well! I gig regularly with a Taylor 414 nylon FLTD (cedar/Tasmanian blackwood), but there was always something just a touch lacking in projection and bottom end. I was at Gryphon Strings a couple of months ago and picked up a 712 Nylon (12 fret) and knew I had to have it. Not sure if it's the new bracing on Taylors or just the fact that it's a 12 fret, but it's projection is incredible and it has that "warmth" I've been looking for.
So when I went to pick up the guitar, a lady from Gryphon Strings heard me playing and asked to shoot a short video, which I thought was very cool! So here is the video and a picture of the Taylor 712 ceN, Westerrn Sunburst! https://www.instagram.com/p/BVDuF9nB...nstrings&hl=en https://www.instagram.com/p/BVNPeQRD...moreaxes&hl=en
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Very good!
Hi Mike,
Thank you for posting that. It's very helpful. I'm considering a nylon. I like how the Taylor Nylons play, but, ask you said, I'm not crazy about how they sound. The best sounding one's I've heard are your's and a new 714ceN. Two questions. Do you have a video of finger picking it? I'm curious to know how it sounds there. And, did you happen to play any other 712ceN and how does yours compare. Thanks! Derek
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Here is a finger-style video. The room is a bit boomy. https://www.instagram.com/p/BWIxkGvD...moreaxes&hl=en
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Congrats!
Lodi55:
Congratulations on the new guitar. It looks super sweet. I bought a NS72ce when they first came out and have loved it ever since... Just a note though. I believe these guitars to be very sensitive to the strings you choose. It will completely change their tone...like completely. I have landed on D Addario composite basses, very high tension and their carbon trebles in high tension. For many years I used the very high tension composites with the funky G string. Loved that combination until I tried the carbons... Keep us posted (ha!). D Here is a clip I call "Amusing" |
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I had a NC32 for a short time. It was damaged and I was refurbishing it. Someone needed the neck for their very nice 712N that got damaged. I lost track of his project but it was not a fit, but the last I heard he adapted it (?).
Anyway, that experience really impressed me with the Taylor nylon crossovers. This whole year, I've been taking a new approach to playing and been voraciously working on steel-string classical pieces. Finally, I had a finger injury earlier this year which gave me an unwarranted arthritis scare. Those three things combined have made me pretty much concluded that a Taylor nylon is in my future. My favorite guitar is my GC7 (basically a 712) so I would likely go that route in nylon. I keep looking for one in every store I go into since I want to actually PLAY one in person, but no one seems to carry these. Well, I love hearing others' stories as I cultivate a future case of GAS.
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Thank you!
Hello Mike,
Thank you for the reply and posting the video! It sounds great, and the tune you wrote is cool. It's about the Hills of Montana? I was born in Montana. It's looking like that model will be the one I go with in the not to distant future. Thanks again, Derek
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I play 99% acoustically on my nylon string guitars.
The Taylors and the Yamaha crossovers are nice guitars IF you plug in and amplify them. I just don't like the sound out of them acoustically. Just one person's opinion..
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I think that the current 12-fretters with the Lutz Spruce have a tone and projection that is a pretty big departure from previous models. So give them a try if you have not already. Of course, you may still not like the sound..
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I tried them and still don't like the sound acoustically.
Right or wrong, my thought is that I can make almost any crappy acoustic guitar sound great with an amplifier. The trick is to have an acoustic guitar sound great as is. For my ears & money, the Yamaha's & Taylor nylon don't sound too good when played unplugged.
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Hi guys,
Lodi.. I assume the strings on it are the stock strings? My thinking is that I could get a "real" classical, which, I know has a different, perhaps better sound. Yet, when I factor in playability, comfort to play, and amplified sound the scales tip back a little. That is especially so now that I'm 55+. Add to that the Lutz spruce sound improvement (IMO), especially in the 12th Fret version, the Taylor's do sound closer to a real classical than the previous versions of Taylor nylons. So I'm now tipping towards a Taylor nylon.
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I've played a ton of crappy guitars that, when amplified, sound like crappy guitars.
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I agree with Lodi that:
"I've played a ton of crappy guitars that, when amplified, sound like crappy guitars." Lodi: did you happen to compare the 714ceN with the 712ceN? If so what was the major difference? I played a 714ceN about a month ago. Right away I noticed that it sounded much better than other Taylor nylons I had played.
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