The Acoustic Guitar Forum

Go Back   The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Build and Repair

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 07-21-2017, 10:32 PM
bnjp's Avatar
bnjp bnjp is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,427
Default What is this drill bit called?

I'm looking for a bit that can drill a hole in the tail block smaller on the outside and larger on the inside. This is for a specialty project where I need to install a 2nd output jack beside the strap button. The bit I'm looking for drills backwards so you can pull it through the hole from the outside.
__________________
Bryan
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-22-2017, 02:03 AM
mirwa mirwa is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 3,110
Default

I believe you are referring to a counterbore, some people call them step bores, shouldered bores etc, personally I just make my own.

Most hardware stores would have something suitable.

Steve
__________________
Cole Clark Fat Lady
Gretsch Electromatic
Martin CEO7
Maton Messiah
Taylor 814CE
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-22-2017, 03:35 AM
Silly Moustache Silly Moustache is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: The Isle of Albion
Posts: 22,144
Default

I think they are called reamers here.
__________________
Silly Moustache,
Just an old Limey acoustic guitarist, Dobrolist, mandolier and singer.
I'm here to try to help and advise and I offer one to one lessons/meetings/mentoring via Zoom!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-22-2017, 04:45 AM
srick's Avatar
srick srick is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 8,215
Default

Smaller on the outside, larger on the inside? Must be a tardis bit!

Rick
__________________
”Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet”
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-22-2017, 05:01 AM
ctgagnon ctgagnon is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 248
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by srick View Post
Smaller on the outside, larger on the inside? Must be a tardis bit!

Rick
Everybody says that, yeah.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-22-2017, 08:11 AM
printer2 printer2 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Middle of Canada
Posts: 5,131
Default

I hope it is ok to link to another forum.

http://www.luthiersforum.com/forum/v...0bb48ceb68d510
__________________
Fred
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-22-2017, 08:15 AM
MC5C MC5C is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Tatamagouche Nova Scotia
Posts: 1,136
Default

It's called a reverse counter-bore, or a reverse spot-facer. You can buy commercial ones made for metal working, you may find one at Stewmac et al.. You can make one out of a bolt. Presuming you want a 3/8" hole, get a 3/8" bolt of a certain length, hacksaw the bolt head so it has two or three arms sticking out, file the face of each arm into a cutting surface, drill your 3/8" hole the tailblock for the pilot hole, fish the bolt through the hole from the inside of the guitar, and use the drill to spin the bolt and pull back to make the sharpened arms cut the counter-bore. MSC has many of them, you buy the bore bit plus a pilot shaft, and mount the bit on the shaft, then do as above. https://www.mscdirect.com/browse/tn/...navid=12106110
__________________
Brian Evans
Around 15 archtops, electrics, resonators, a lap steel, a uke, a mandolin, some I made, some I bought, some kinda showed up and wouldn't leave. Tatamagouche Nova Scotia.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-23-2017, 11:04 AM
murrmac123 murrmac123 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Edinburgh, bonny Scotland
Posts: 5,197
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silly Moustache View Post
I think they are called reamers here.
No, they are not called reamers here, Andy, they are called reverse counterbores.

A reamer is a totally different tool, and has the same name both here and in the US.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-24-2017, 10:09 PM
bnjp's Avatar
bnjp bnjp is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,427
Default

Thanks everyone. That reverse counterbore is exactly what I was needing.
__________________
Bryan
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-07-2017, 08:38 PM
bnjp's Avatar
bnjp bnjp is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,427
Default

I decided to use a 1/2" router bit instead. Drilled the outer hole and then stuck the bit through the hole from the inside. Caught the shaft in the chuck of the drill and pulled it through backwards. Worked great. This is what I was doing.

__________________
Bryan
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-07-2017, 10:34 PM
nacluth's Avatar
nacluth nacluth is offline
AGF Sponsor
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,439
Default

Cool. Nice job.
__________________
Ryan
Kinnaird SJ - Walnut/Sitka

Kinnaird Guitars - from the oldest town in Texas
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-08-2017, 04:19 PM
bnjp's Avatar
bnjp bnjp is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,427
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nacluth View Post
Cool. Nice job.
Thanks. Those are two identical Baggs endpin jacks. The one is just recessed so it's more flush since most people only play with one strap. haha.
__________________
Bryan
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-08-2017, 05:34 PM
Ned Milburn Ned Milburn is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Dartmouth, NS
Posts: 3,127
Default

Just wondering why you would need a reverse counter bore bit in order to drill a hole for a jack...??
__________________
----

Ned Milburn
NSDCC Master Artisan
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-09-2017, 03:21 AM
murrmac123 murrmac123 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Edinburgh, bonny Scotland
Posts: 5,197
Default

Just FTR, you are probably going to wish you had installed the second jack socket between the top and the center rather than between the back and the center.

I did exactly the same thing as you have done on my Bourgeois OM, (except I retained the end-pin and located the jack socket where you have located your second one). I find now, on stage, that the strap interferes with easy insertion and removal of the jack plug. It would have been more ergonomic if I had fitted it between the top and the end-pin.

Like Ned, I am slightly puzzled by why you needed a reverse counterbore for this operation ?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-09-2017, 11:53 AM
cattzap cattzap is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Carlos, Tx
Posts: 555
Default

He needed to counter bore the back of the hole to allow the threaded length of the jack to make it all the way out to the surface far enough to screw the nut on. His solder terminals are probably buried down into his counter bore.

Another option would have been to scoot away from the block in the center and install it into the thinner side body, but....I have one at my house right now that was done that way and the first blow to the end of the cord blew the side out. Not sure what can actually be done now.
__________________
Seagull Entourage Rustic Cutaway
Yamaha FG410A
Fender DG-14S/12 TF
Ibanez GSR200 Bass
Abilene Hot Rod Bass (found parts in trash can an resurrected)
Peavey TKO Bass Amp
Cordoba Concert Ukulele
A few more things that I'll add soon
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Build and Repair






All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, The Acoustic Guitar Forum
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=