A modified poll on guitar character

[ukejon]

Originally Posted by teleamp

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OK, added it to the OP (if it is allowed).

[Nkim718]

Maybe it's because I'm on the younger end of the demographic spectrum at 21, but I would pick the new one for sure. (0ldies like old things?? ) The fact that people pay extra for reliced electric guitars always confused the heck out of me. Why buy a beat up guitar when the whole point is to beat it up yourself? If they cost the same and both sound great, I choose the one in better condition.

[ukejon]

Originally Posted by Nkim718

Maybe it's because I'm on the younger end of the demographic spectrum at 21, but I would pick the new one for sure. (0ldies like old things?? ) The fact that people pay extra for reliced electric guitars always confused the heck out of me. Why buy a beat up guitar when the whole point is to beat it up yourself? If they cost the same and both sound great, I choose the one in better condition.

Hey now....I resemble that remark!

[Jimbolaya]

I'm going to cheat. If you buy the old one, it has not lost any value when you walk out the door. Buy the new one and your new guitar is now worth 30% less.
The old one has more value.
New guitars sometimes need warrantee claims, any problems of the old one would already have come up.
I vote old but I know that's not the point of your poll.

[jimmyboy]

If price are exactly the same.I will take the brand new one all day.
If it gonna has marks or dings here and there in the future. It will be by me,not by someone else.

[ukejon]

Originally Posted by Jimbolaya

I'm going to cheat. If you buy the old one, it has not lost any value when you walk out the door. Buy the new one and your new guitar is now worth 30% less.
The old one has more value.
New guitars sometimes need warrantee claims, any problems of the old one would already have come up.
I vote old but I know that's not the point of your poll.

I like your logic, however.

[DanPanther]

You se how many want WIGGLE room in your poll. That makes the choice very easy, if you change the parameters to suit your own preferences. How about like my poll, BLACK, OR WHITE, now choose. No custom add on's.
How is this poll not flawed, when there is clearly a no brainer choice. You have so much wiggle room here that a moron could easily see which guitar to choose. I'm trying to show you that if you say character marks do not matter, that you are fooling yourself, because it does matter.

So here's another poll, I have a choice of a brand new right off the showroom floor, 2015 Honda Civic, OR a 2002 Rolls Royce, with average road wear. Which one do you choose.
Personally I'd choose the Rolls Royce, because I could sell it, and buy 10 or 15 Honda's. That is what you propose ukejon, hardly a choice at all, in fact a no brainer.

Dan

[ukejon]

Originally Posted by DanPanther

How is this poll not flawed, when there is clearly a no brainer choice. You have so much wiggle room here that a moron could easily see which guitar to choose. I'm trying to show you that if you say character marks do not matter, that you are fooling yourself, because it does matter.

So here's another poll, I have a choice of a brand new right off the showroom floor, 2015 Honda Civic, OR a 2002 Rolls Royce, with average road wear. Which one do you choose.
Personally I'd choose the Rolls Royce, because I could sell it, and buy 10 or 15 Honda's. That is what you propose ukejon, hardly a choice at all, in fact a no brainer.

Dan

Then why is the voting 11-10 right now ?

Update: now 19-19....hardly a "no brainer".

Also, do you really think the well played, older Martin in my scenario is worth 10 or 15 times the new guitar?

[Teleman52]

A 70s d28 is hardly worth more than a new one. If it has character marks, its worth LESS so that argument falls apart danpanther

[jmjohnson]

"How is this poll not flawed, when there is clearly a no brainer choice.

WHICH choice is a no brainer??? Seems a lot of people would choose the older one just because (not old enough for me to think too hard- I would choose the new one).

[Teleman52]

Originally Posted by jmg257

WHICH choice is a no brainer??? Seems a lot of people would choose the older one just because (not old enough for me to think too hard- I would choose the new one).

He thinks that a 70s d28 is worth a lot more than a new one

[Br1ck]

Originally Posted by blue

That doesn't take into the account why one is clean and one is worn... It's possible that the clean one may not have had as much playing time because it simply wasn't that good to begin with. Spent most of its life in closets and on shop walls not being bought.

That was exactly my point. I guess I didn't communicate clearly. Really good guitars find a way to get played.

[fazool]

Originally Posted by kydave

No contest there. The older guitar would have features which I'd MUCH rather have - the rigid, non-adjustable truss rod neck, the full profile neck contour, ivory saddle/nut, old growth Indian rosewood... plus 40 years of aging.

Next question, please!

Ahhh, I ignored those and assumed they were identical except for the aging.

If the specs were different, I rescind my vote

[stringjunky]

All things being equal but the older guitar has the tonal maturity and wear marks I'll take the older one because at 52 I can't wait forty years for the new one to catch up tonally if that is my desire.

[Brucebubs]

Just can't vote.
I'm sure the Martin D-28 is a great guitar but it's just not my thing.
Martin makes a lot of other guitars.
Some not as good as the D-28.
Some equal to the D-28.
Some better than the D-28.