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07-14-2010, 01:35 PM
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New Classical "Beater"...
Hey.
Am in the market for a new Classical "Beater": Just need a guitar to knock around with, take outside, etc, but which still (hopefully) sounds decent. I do already have a guitar that suits this purpose, but it's just TOO darn crappy: all laminate, poor tone, etc. I think my beater can AT LEAST have a solid top. Would like to spend less than $500 on this piece. Was thinking about either a Pavan TP-10 (solid Cedar top, Sapele laminate back & sides), or maybe a Yamaha CG162S (solid Englemann Spruce top/Ovangkol laminate back & sides) or CG182 (solid European Spruce top/Rosewood laminate back & sides), or maybe even a Kremona. Might anyone here have any ideas on these choices? Which of these will give me the most bang for my buck? 
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#2
07-14-2010, 02:42 PM
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Esteve R Fernandez 40?
Can be had right at your budgeted amount.
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#3
07-14-2010, 03:02 PM
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If I could spend $500 on a beater, I'd shop for a used guitar.
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07-14-2010, 03:15 PM
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I agree. For a 500 budget, you can find a nice used Nylon on CL that should fit your needs.
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07-14-2010, 04:26 PM
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Another recommendation to shop around for the USED gits in your area for that price.
Craigslist, Evil-Bay, look at the forum FOR SALE items (here, Acoustic Guitar) and you might be pleasantly surprised at what you find. Ask your local shops...I think about everyone would agree that nylon string models are usually the slowest moving in shops, so thus an opportunity for you to shop and "make an offer". Should be FUN project, so Enjoy your challenge. 
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07-14-2010, 09:23 PM
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Yamaha CG 162 cedar top. Less than $ 400.00. Excellent guitar.
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#8
07-14-2010, 10:37 PM
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#9
07-15-2010, 08:44 AM
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$500, nice budget. I'd say go used too. Heck, the Guitar Center here in Tampa has a dinged up Contreras selling in that price range that sounds amazing. Last time I was there to buy a steel string, but had to force myself NOT to pik up the Contreras because it was so nice. They had a nice used Guild in the price range, too.
Yup, go used!
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#10
07-17-2010, 01:53 PM
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Eric,
You don't have to spend $500 for a beater, and you won't find a Pavan or Kremona for that price (both very nice guitars). You can buy some great guitars on flea-bay for under $200. First do a search on Classical Guitars, then select your preference as lowest priced first. Look for guitars that start listing between 99 cents and $100. You will find vintage guitars every week that sell for $100-$200 that are great. Right now there is a Morris, a Bruno Ventura, some older Yamahas, a nice Suzuki... all of these are guitars of a quality level that you would have to pay more than $500 for new. They will be used and sometimes not pretty, but all will be great "players" guitars, and that is what a "beater" is, right? Be patient, take at least 2 weeks, start watching... you will be amazed at what sells for practically nothing. Feel free to PM me if you have a questions about any particular guitar.... I know just enough to be dangerous. Edit: There are some very nice Walden classicals selling new on flea-bay right now for ridiculous prices... I have played the high-end Waldens and they were amazing... I suspect they area all good... just make sure you get a solid top, nothing else will do. BD Last edited by billder99; 07-17-2010 at 02:03 PM.
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#12
07-18-2010, 08:25 AM
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For some folks, beaters start at $150. For other folks, beaters start at $1000.
Eric's buying in accordance to his budget. If he can spend $500 for a beater, that's fine.  I would still buy used for better value. But I must admit that buying on fleaBay may not be ideal (if the seller has a NO RETURNS policy) since you can't play the guitar before it arrives. Face it, we all have our tastes. What's a "great guitar" to one player may be a "horrible guitar" to another. Craigslist is where I prefer to shop and I always bring one of my guitars for comparison (this will allow me to account for acoustic conditions which might make the other guitar "sound" better). If you do decide to go new, then Yamaha and Takamine should be included in your short-list. I've had mixed results with Cordoba (Iberia series), LaPatrie and Kremona but I would not rule any of them out if I can play before buying. IMHO, the Spanish-made guitars suffer from a degree of price-inflation due to the past strength of the Spanish economy and the exchange rates. That's why I'm not quick to recommend Rodriguez y Hijos or any of the other Spanish brands. I feel you get better value with a quality PacRim guitar, a Canadian guitar, Mexican (luthier made) or an Eastern European one.
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#13
07-18-2010, 08:45 AM
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I picked up a Yamaha C-70 in a pawn-shop, for $100.
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#14
07-18-2010, 11:13 AM
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solid cedar top,solid rosewood b/s,ebony fret board. It's cost 13,000 baht or 400 us in Bangkok Thailand. I don't know the link!,sorry again.
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#15
07-18-2010, 11:47 AM
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http://www.acousticthai.net/communit...d.php?tid=7700 Don't know how I would go about buying this, as they don't appear to be marketed in the States at all, but it's interesting to see it. Thanks for mentioning it. BD, thanks for the eBay tips. I will certainly look into that. Will investigate all the other suggestions offered on this page as well. Thanks. y'all! -Eric
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