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Old 10-21-2017, 09:57 PM
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You manage to carelessly ding your mint guitar and it makes the dreaded transition to "good condition"
Hate string-winders.....*rolls eyes* need to make a mental note to change strings by hand with nicer guitars from now on. My Beneteau is def not happy with me, currently. Big mark in the finish below the bridge now due to a stubborn pin. Just a heads up to those who think their string winders are their best friends...they're actually wolves in sheep's clothing

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dinged the headstock on my pristine Kopp K 35 yesterday.....bad words!
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The first ding is never good, but we all do it.

I always push up towards the saddle with a stubborn pin or push it from inside the guitar. Once in a blue moon I'll approach with a small plier if its nasty.

Believe it or not, using the same pins in the same hole has really cut down on stubborn pins for me. I thought it was a little on the absurd side at first, but I tried it and good results.
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You manage to carelessly ding your mint guitar and it makes the dreaded transition to "good condition"
From "mint" to "good" just from a finish blem?
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Old 10-21-2017, 10:56 PM
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didja try and use the winder to pull a pin out? Ive learnt to put a piece of paper under where the winder lifts the pin. Before, the winder left a light indentation in the bridge that i had to buff out. You could try putting a tshirt over the top, with a sleeve or the (insert word for the hole you put your head through when you wear a shirt) exposing the bridge. It'll be thick enough to protect the top from potential dings.

My issue with string winders is that they slowly scratch and scuff my tuner buttons when used to wind or unwind. My pristine gold gotohs have some minor scratches that I will have to try and buff out. for the time being, you could cover the tuner buttons in a thin piece of tissue paper or cloth to protect it.
You could also cover the inside of the string winder in some soft material too
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From "mint" to "good" just from a finish blem?
Guitar drama.
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I did the exact same thing on the very 1st string change on a new Maton 12-string guitar.
The pins must have been hammered in.
Bruised the bridge trying to get them out with the remover 'groove/slot' on the end of the string winder cup.
Found 2 things that work properly.



- Snapz 2.0 pin puller - I painted the silver on my set.
- small pair of pliers. I reshaped and smoothed the internal jaws with a Dremel, left 1 single 'rib' at the very tip to grip the pin.
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Old 10-22-2017, 03:32 AM
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To pull pins I use mini nail pullers or pincers with tape over the jaws. Jason Kostal does it this way as well.
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Old 10-22-2017, 03:41 AM
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I am a klutz and know that I am a klutz. I am very likely to drop a pair of pliers on my guitar when I approach it. Yeah, born under a bad sign and all that stuff.

Reach into the guitar and push the pins up from the inside. No tools, please. And please remove any rings 'cuz if you're like me your college signet is going to scuff it up at the edge of the soundhole.

I play a Lowden so no more pins...

Sorry to hear about the ding.
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I always use a pair of flush cuts to get up under the top of the pin, and gently pry the pins up. I have never made a mark on a guitar by doing this, and I have never been unable to get them out. Many years, many strings. Of course I am careful, but the flush cuts work well.

I have never owned a pair of string winders. Don't want them, don't need them.
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The first cut is the deepest.



I'll show myself out.
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You manage to carelessly ding your mint guitar and it makes the dreaded transition to "good condition"
Hate string-winders.....*rolls eyes* need to make a mental note to change strings by hand with nicer guitars from now on. My Beneteau is def not happy with me, currently. Big mark in the finish below the bridge now due to a stubborn pin. Just a heads up to those who think their string winders are their best friends...they're actually wolves in sheep's clothing

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Good luck telling committed string winders, guitar stand devotees, and wall hangers, that anything bad can happen to their guitar. They've convinced themselves that bad things happen to less informed, less careful people.

Sorry you found out too late.
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All string winders should be dumped in the ocean.
Or buried in the desert.
Silly and unnecessary invention.
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Old 10-22-2017, 07:27 AM
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To pull pins I use mini nail pullers or pincers with tape over the jaws. Jason Kostal does it this way as well.
we have a winner!
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