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Old 12-31-2016, 06:35 PM
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Default Freeting 'bout frets.

Just got a Taylor K20 Koa, which has binding on the neck. The frets are lifted a bit on the ends. How common is this, what caused it, and can I fix it without doing a full fret job?
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Old 12-31-2016, 07:33 PM
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Photo would be helpful.

The fret ends are not supported by a tang in the wood, they are clipped just shy of the binding on the underside, this means the very edge is not supported underneath.

If they are not catching your hands when playing or physically coming out of the fret board then they are fine.

You can lightly reshape the unsupported edge with a fretting hammer if it's bad.

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Old 12-31-2016, 11:15 PM
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It's getting a pickup installed, so can't get photo right now. The end of the frets feel sharp, because they are lifted, but it's not keeping me from playing it. Thanks for the explanation on the ends not having a grip. They are not coming out, just lifted.
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Old 12-31-2016, 11:27 PM
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You can smooth the fret ends out if they feel sharp, this happens from humidity and temp changes.

If the fret is seated well and catching a string, example high e, then you can apply beeswax or something similar under the edge of the fret, it fills any void

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If they are "sprung", then the best thing to do is to re-seat them, using CA to keep them seated. I would tape the fingerboard on either side of the fret, wick thin CA in, and use a "Jaws" press to hold the fret down while the glue sets. If you don't have a Jaws press, then you can use a dowel to hold the fret end down while the CA sets up. Use 0000 steel wool to clean the glue off the fret before removing tape. The frets will then need to be leveled, crowned, and polished.
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:49 PM
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Tapping unsupported fret ends can be dicey. There's nothing to hold the ends down - so a tap can just as easily raise them. Some luthiers have a knack for tapping just right to flatten them out. If you don't have that knack from years of practice - they will stick up higher when you give them a whack.

This is probably a good excuse to have the luthier doing the pickup to check out the frets and sort them out for you.
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Old 01-02-2017, 11:47 AM
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Because you can feel the frets on the ends doesn't necessarily mean they've lifted, more likely the fingerboard has shrunk a few mils in width. This causes what I call "chainsaw frets". Running a file at an angle down the ends of the frets and then re dressing the ends willl usually solve this problem. Ask your luthier to have a look at it.

The more definite signs of lifting frets are locallized fret buzzing, and you can often press down on the end of a lifted/loose fret and watch it sink under the pressure.

In either case a refret is not necessary. A re-fret is usually needed only when the existing frets have become too low from repeated levelling. If the existing frets are high enough and close enough to planar, all that's usually needed is to secure any loose frets and possibly a slight re-levelling.
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