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probably a stupid question, but....m
Is there a carbon fiber acoustic that has anything near to a Martin sound?
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Not really. Composite guitars tend to have their own tone signature. That said, Composite Acoustics, which are carbon fiber are close to a woody tone. Perhaps the closest to wood are the Blackbird eKoa (resin infused flax linen) models. Regardless, the major composite guitar builders are making great instruments.
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You might get close using electronic processing and amp.
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probably a stupid question, but....m
I'm shocked by how much my composite acoustics ox raw sounds like a Martin.
It's very similar to my friends 000-15m |
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I think my Composite Acoustic Legacy sounds close to wood. Maybe its the top bracing?
Amplified through an Aura imaging pedal I can get close to Martin, but Martin sound is hard to duplicate. I do like the sound of the Composite Acoustic as is. It works better for me as singer songwriter guitar than my Martin sometimes.
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Carbon fiber instruments do not, generally, sound like Martins--they sound better, don't split, handle diverse environments, and have more style.
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To Evan's thoughts I would add that neck resets have been needed on two (out of four) Martins, and I've had zero neck issues on any of my four carbon fiber guitars. I don't own any of the Martin's any more. I hear that the Rainsong C-H models sound pretty woody, but I have not played them myself (yet). The Blackbird ekoa guitars sound very much like my Taylor's, IMO.
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I also think a CA Legacy dread has a slightly scooped midrange in the Martin fashion...
I've not had the pleasure of checking out anyone else's carbon fiber dreadnought though. |
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My experience has been the same as EvanB's....
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Is there are particular Martin model that you're looking to benchmark for comparison? There are a lot of variables among the Martin offerings, so it's hard to make broad general comments about each CF guitar compared to the entire Martin historical catalog.
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I believe the founder of CA guitars used the Martin Dred sound as his goal.
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I wonder what Ellis Seal is up to these days. I don’t think he’s with McPherson anymore. I think I’d be cool for him to start-up a new composite guitar company branded with his own surname. Likely not in the cards though.
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Seal Composite Instruments- I like the sound of that! https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellis-seal-10324441
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probably a stupid question, but....m
I just received my first CF guitar a Rainsong CH-OM. It is a beautiful guitar with great tone and sustain. When I A/B’d it with any of my Taylor or Martin guitars the tone does not compare. The wood guitars have a sound that is more rich and resonant. But if you are playing acoustically alone the sound is great and you’ll love it.
The real difference is not heard until you A/B it against a wood guitar. If you were playing an acoustic guitar only performance your choice will be the wood guitar every time. That being said there are some distinct advantages to a CF guitar. Its ability to not be affected by temperature and humidity are real advantages. I keep all of my guitars in open racks. During the winter I have to keep two large humidifiers running to maintain a 50% humidity level in my man cave. Traveling with a CF guitar is less problematic. Personally I travel with a Voyage-Air foldable guitar that fits in a backpack and fits in airline overhead storage. A full size guitar may be able to be carried on but may have to be checked at the gate.
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