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Thanks - but dropped tunings could be a problem?
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Depends on how hard you play. Will likely need heavier strings for that.
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I would say a good general guideline would be a measurement of .020" to .022" of the low E string at the first fret. I can't see how that could cause a problem under a hard thick pick attack. I'd think a measurement of .09" of the low E string at the 12th fret would be a good standard. My guess would be that the amount of people wanting higher action would be small compared to the general guitar playing public. Note I don't think the general guitar playing public would have a good understanding of the impact of the numbers I am using.
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You don't understand what anyone here is saying because you think there's a correlation between what your favorite players use, and your possibly being able to emulate them. I play fingerstyle in all manner of open tunings, from simple dropped D to C'Vestapol (open D down a whole step), and all of this with D'Addario EJ-16's .012-.053. My action is basically 1/8"+/-, which is pretty much the max for most flat pick players. Sometimes the action gets lower when I am in a particular tuning because the relief changes with the tension, but it's meaningless in the scheme of things because during a performance I'll go through 3-4 tuning changes. But that's me. When I was young my hero was Nokie Edwards of the instrumental group, The Ventures. I wanted the Mosrite guitar that he played in the worst way......so I got on a bus (I was 15 in 1966) and I went to the local music store that had them in stock. The salesman handed me the guitar, I plugged it in, but as I started to play it I was aghast: How could anyone play a neck this narrow??? He was still my hero, but I didn't have his hands, etc, and somehow I figured this out without the internet, or putting it up to committee. The best lessons have been the ones I learned myself because NOBODY can explain it the way I experience it. The phrase 'more than meets the eye' comes to mind, except you substitute 'ears', or 'hands'. Regards, Howard http://howardemerson.com/product/the-wall-talks |
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Fair comment - thanks Howard
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Right on the button, Howard! {{Like}}
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I'd say you're pretty high on the bass side at 0.110". I can play action that high and get a ton of power out of the guitar, but it's not optimal for fingerstyle. I generally like to play with my action on the high side, as I play with fingerpicks and I really lean into the strings. I tend to set the bass side to 0.095" to 0.100" and the treble side somewhere around 0.070" with relief somewhere around 0.004" to 0.005".
I don't know the precise setup of the guys you mentioned, but it really has a lot to do with your style. If you pick hard and need to prevent string buzzing, then you need higher action. The specs I mention should eliminate string buzz if you're heavy handed. If you play with a lighter touch, you can probably take another 0.010" off each side. I would definitely try to lower things from 0.110", as that's getting up there. I would really try to get the action to the point where you can play without feeling hindered. I like to err on the high side. If you feel you're fighting the action, go lower. I wouldn't pay much attention to what other people are using, frankly.
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The action isn't what's going to get your guitar ringing with piano like sounds. It's the guitar.
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...and how it is played, and by whom
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