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03-19-2018, 04:30 AM
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Cites permits for rosewood
If a rosewood guitar (non brazilian rosewood) is imported into the usa, will the sender need to get a cites export permit out of his country and a corresponding import permit into the USA? Or is an export permit sufficient?
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#2
03-19-2018, 09:04 AM
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You will get a lot of opinions on your question.
I have not seen anything official about it though. Here is a statement from Taylor Guitar about how this will affect the guitar market. https://www.taylorguitars.com/cites
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03-19-2018, 07:36 PM
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If it's a country we have a normal trading relationship it's only one form.
Fee should be about $100 US. Ed Bond (Tinker/Halcyon) will have a definitive answer about Canada to US. I understand it only takes most of a day to fill out the paperwork.
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03-19-2018, 07:44 PM
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Cites permits for rosewood
I’m currently in the middle of the application. The annoyance I’m having is that the form seems to require submission of customs paperwork documenting how the rosewood entered the US prior to my purchase. This is a guitar that was manufactured and purchased prior to EIR being listed in CITES. I’ve been playing phone tag with a Fish and Wildlife rep trying to get clarity on what I actually need to submit. The manufacturer has not responded to my email yet. So far, a little frustrating, just to take a guitar abroad to play while traveling.
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03-19-2018, 08:09 PM
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Keep calling the CITES office at Fish and Wildlife in DOI. They are going to be the only ones who can give you a fully authoritative answer. You mentioned that it was not Brazilian which would be a serious problem. You did not mention if it was Madagascar rosewood which could also be a serious problem.
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03-19-2018, 09:04 PM
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Thanks for the tips. It sure sounds like a royal headache given that even the officials aren't sure of whats what.
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03-19-2018, 09:14 PM
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6 months ago I bought an old fretless Fender bass with rosewood fingerboard in the US. I took it across the border to Canada, paid some tax and nobody had a concern. No questions about wood.
One year ago bought a high end Alembic bass with exotic wood in the US, again brought it across the border and nobody (Canada customs) cared. They get their tax money and could not bother to even look at the guitars.
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03-19-2018, 09:21 PM
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It may vary country to country, I don't know.
From CA to USA, only a CA export permit is required. So far, for me, it hasn't been a big deal, other than the PITA of having to drive out to the airport and bounce around the ques at both FedEx and CBSA for a jolly afternoon of waiting in line. If you want to know about CA to USA I can tell you more, if from another country I know nought.
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03-21-2018, 08:49 PM
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03-21-2018, 09:11 PM
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Word.
Let me know if you have any other specific questions, if it is about CA to USA. I've done it a bunch.
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03-23-2018, 12:14 AM
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Madagascar will indeed require an export permit.
Unless you want to get it shipped to a drop location in the US, then cross and bring it back as your personal property which would be allowable. You should definitely talk to Martin about that.
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03-23-2018, 03:45 AM
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03-23-2018, 03:58 AM
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If it was a sale, it would be a commercial shipment, and therefore would require an export permit.
With some standard of proof of the guitars age, showing it to be pre-convention, I would expect you'd be able to get a permit for it easily enough. What that standard of proof might be I don't know. Best bet is to contact Environment Canada, who handles the issuing of permits...
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03-23-2018, 04:28 AM
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What about a Seagull guitar with rosewood saddle and fretboard? I'm hoping to ship this guitar to Nassau Bahamas for personal use on vacation. Would there be any problem with that guitar?
Last edited by lowrider; 03-23-2018 at 05:06 AM.
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