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Old 10-01-2014, 08:46 AM
74rider 74rider is offline
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I have an old Washburn guitar, which sounds awesome and I played the heck out of it and now it's time to replace some frets. Is this typical of steel string guitars? Do they need frets replace periodically? Is there a fret material that is better for wear, longer lasting? So more expensive guitars have frets that last longer?
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Old 10-01-2014, 09:24 AM
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I have an old Washburn guitar, which sounds awesome and I played the heck out of it and now it's time to replace some frets. Is this typical of steel string guitars? Do they need frets replace periodically? Is there a fret material that is better for wear, longer lasting? So more expensive guitars have frets that last longer?
Is this typical of steel string guitars?
yes. it's part of the life cycle of the instrument. it really depends upon how much the thing was played, and how it was played.

Do they need frets replace periodically?
only if they are worn down to the point that a re-dressing and/or a partial re-fret longer does the trick.

Is there a fret material that is better for wear, longer lasting?
stainless steel.

So more expensive guitars have frets that last longer?
not necessarily.

just how bad are your frets? you might only need a re-dress or a partial re-fret.
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Old 10-01-2014, 10:02 AM
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I have an old Washburn guitar, which sounds awesome and I played the heck out of it and now it's time to replace some frets.
I also recommend stainless steel frets for your guitar, but for the whole fingerboard. It is perhaps a little more expensive, but that should pay off.
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Old 10-01-2014, 12:50 PM
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I have a heavy touch, so I tend to wear grooves in the first five frets. A little less than in the past, in part because I spread my play time across several guitars now, but it still happens. Stainless steel is generally regarded as the way to go for durability, but some luthiers charge considerably more for SS jobs. They apparently are a bit harder to work with and wear their tools faster. Another option that has been mentioned is Evo metal frets. Some more discussion here: http://69.41.173.82/forums/showthrea...=evo+fret+wire

Evo fret wire is gold colored, so a partial re-fret may look a bit funny. Product information from LMI here: http://www.lmii.com/products.html?pa...ategory_id=825

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Old 10-01-2014, 02:00 PM
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Arie is correct.

You should be able to get 3 (give or take) good full fret dresses from a set of frets before replacing. A fret dress is levelling to the height of the lowest groove, re-crowning, then polishing.

Evo frets are very hard, I think harder than stainless. It is true that evo and SS frets require more effort/time, and can wear some tools more quickly.
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Old 10-01-2014, 02:13 PM
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Evo is harder than normal fretwire, but softer than stainless. It's actually about halfway between the two in hardness.
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Old 10-02-2014, 06:03 AM
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Evo fret wire is gold colored, so a partial re-fret may look a bit funny.
Evo may be a good alternative, but it's also a design issue. It does not really fit to any guitar. As a partial solution, at least from the 12th fret all the upper frets should be replaced. But that is not to say that therefore the repair would necessarily be much cheaper.
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Old 10-02-2014, 06:13 AM
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Evo may be a good alternative, but it's also a design issue. It does not really fit to any guitar.
Huh...?? Explain please.
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Old 10-02-2014, 06:25 AM
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Think he means the gold color Ned. It's not an issue with me in terms of color but I'm just not as concerned on my own guitars. I will never go back to regular wire as long as EVO is available. Have not used stainless but know from being a machinist that stainless can be a tad difficult to work with hand tools. I find EVO easy to work.
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Old 10-02-2014, 06:41 AM
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I think the gold color of the EVO looks stunning with gold hardware. And it really doesn't stand out with chrome or nickel IMO.

Fret wear can be handled in one of a few ways. Guys who play the entire board will usually get a complete dressing of the frets or a total re-fret depending on how bad the wear is and the players tolerance for lower profile frets. Other players that only play in the first few positions will usually get the first 4 or 5 frets replaced as that is usually a little cheaper than a complete level & crown.
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Old 10-02-2014, 07:21 AM
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I think the gold color of the EVO looks stunning with gold hardware. And it really doesn't stand out with chrome or nickel IMO.
It is a matter of aesthetics, and depends on the remaining design.
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