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Random thought but has anyone tried using the irig acoustic mic to record a wavemap? I always thought that the irig sounded incredibly natural and full.
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Connectivity might be an issue. I think the TD requires a balanced XLR input. Also I’m not sure that the results would be appreciably better than even a common place dynamic mic located at the neck body joint.
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The newer Irig Acoustic comes with a belt clip preamp. It has a 1/4" out so it could be possible to get a 1/4" to XLR cable to make it work with the Tonedexter. I unfortunately have the original version where it needs to be plugged into an ipad to work. My thinking is that mic'ing a guitar can sometimes be a pain to get right. The Irig is a simple, no fuss solution. Maybe I will get the new version and try it out.
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The iRig's belt clip preamp is indeed very interesting and useful. You could, for instance, send a ToneDexter signal into that preamp's Aux In and use the preamp's automatically generated feedback notches to make that signal (SBT through ToneDexter, perhaps) less vulnerable to feedback. Albeit, you'd have to be careful not to send too much signal through the preamp and overdrive it. Its 3v power supply doesn't allow for much headroom. |
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The iAS is also built rather delicately and its somewhat unwieldy to use, especially if you're blending in another pickup (several cables flopping around and getting tangled with each other). I liked blending in a UST with the iAS, but its easier to send two cables (UST & Lyric) to an outboard blender than to deal with three cables plugged into a little box hanging off my guitar strap. |
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One thing I will say is that the "notch filter" worked pretty well for me. I noticed that tapping the top of my guitar induced some pretty serious feedback that sounded like it was in a tight frequency band. Setting the notch filter to around 200Hz solved that issue entirely! |
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Its my understanding that if you train/create a WaveMap in any slot from 1 to 21, ToneDexter finds the two lowest resonant frequencies of the guitar being trained and reduces the signal a bit at those frequencies. This will hopefully make the signal less feedback prone in live performance (at higher amplification levels) when the guitar top is interacting with speaker sound.
Training in slot 22 is different because its thought that a signal which doesn't have the resonant frequencies reduced might sound s little better for direct recording from ToneDexter. |
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I don't use the Irig live, I actually bought it for recording. It might work for some people but definitely not for me. I just thought it would be interesting to test. The tonedexter is still a much better option.
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If you train the ToneDexter in Slot 22, can that WaveMap be stored in another slot and still retain all the characteristics of its Slot 22 generation? If so, this would mean that a player could train several guitars using Slot 22 and store these individual WaveMaps in other slots, and thus have WaveMaps ready for recording purposes as opposed to live-performances. I'm wondering, however, if a Slot 22-recorded WaveMap is stored in another slot, does that WaveMap get altered somewhat into a live-performance WaveMap by being stored in a non-Slot 22 slot?
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Yes, you can train in any slot, and then save it to another.
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Thanks Doug! That's good to know.
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I've been trying to train a WaveMap for my Barberi Soloist-equipped guitar today, but the results are sounding thin and hollow so far. This was the first occasion where I've liked the dry pickup signal a lot more than the Dexterized signal. (I'm only playing every other string to train, as advised.) Oddly enough, the rig sounds very good with another guitar's WaveMap. Go figure. I'm planning on also installing a PUTW SBT in the guitar, so I'll likely get satisfaction with a guitar-specific WaveMap sooner or later. Last edited by guitaniac; 12-09-2017 at 04:57 PM. |