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PAF or P90?
So as not to hijack the P90 thread going on, I'll ask here. For you Gibson lovers, which pickup do you prefer? PAF (original, boutique, etc) or P90? I love the Seth Lovers I have in my Eastman, especially through my Deluxe. Never tried a set of P90s though. Need to do that sometime.
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When the PAF was designed, McCarty suggested a design that sounded like a 'no hum' version of a P90. The PAF 'bucker is what Seth Lover came up with.
I like both units. A 'good' PAF (50's OEM) equipped guitar sounds more like a Tele than you might think, P90s sound wonderful too.
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I have an ES335 with '57 Classic humbuckers in it and wow, just wow. A match made in heaven.
Bob
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PAF humbuckers by design tend to clip off some of the harsher, upper-order harmonics from your signal. The human ear translates this as greater "warmth" to the signal, which is excellent if you're playing jazz or blues without a lot of distortion. And, naturally, they also filter out 60 cycle hum you get from any other appliance which is running on the same circuit. P-90s don't do any of that, so they deliver more brightness on the high-end. A lot of rock and rollers like that. It's that raunchy sound you associate with early Chuck Berry records and early Duane Eddy records.
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...i like em both with no preference for one over the other..... i like the vintage examples the best but there are many new examples that are great too...i'm a big fan of the Seth Lovers that you have in your Eastman...my 73 Gibson SG sported a pair and they just killed in that guitar....
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PAF v P90, Humbucker v Single Coil - and pretty noisy at that, chalk and cheese.
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PAF or P90?
I admire good PAF tone, especially in a semihollow like a 335. However, I have found time and again that in my hands, with my playing style, I just always enjoy the attack and response of a single coil better - whether it's a P90, strat, tele, or jazzmaster.
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Clint: I'm a humbucker guy myself. I love the Seymour Duncan '59 and the DiMarzio Super Distortion is still a pickup I enjoy. |
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I would like to hear more about your experience with Seths in your T386. Major improvement over the stocks? I've never felt the need to replace the pickups in mine, but can't help but wonder if a pickup upgrade would make sense as I basically view it as a long-term keeper. Only thing I've done so far is replace the TOM bridge for one with graphite saddles. |
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Love P90's...BUT a Duncan '59 is very sweet. I also took a PAF out of an old SG a friend didn't want that I gladly took, painted it red and stuck it in the neck position of my sky blu Ibanez shred machine that was decorated in F16's and it not only looked killer, it screamed phat brown sound baby! BaZing!!!
(btw...for the bridge pu I wired in a Duncan zebra distortion w/ tap in volume knob straight to jack, no tone...varoooooooom!)
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i have and love both p90s and humbuckers. i'd really like to have a guitar with one of each, probably a p90 in neck and humbucker in the bridge.
play music!
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I also dropped the original Eastman pickups in my Les Paul that has an upgraded wiring, and it sounds like a muddy version of the Eastman. Compared to the Duncan pickups I took out, they sound muffled and using the Bright channel on my amp is a must now. I think the main difference is that the Eastman pickups are wound hotter (by about 1Kohm) and thoroughly wax potted.
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Had a chance a couple years ago to A/B my '11 P-90 LP Studio goldtop against a gennie '58 PAF darkback goldie, similar setup on both (low action, flatwound 11's on the P-90/12's on the PAF); edge goes to the PAF for punch, P-90 gets the nod for upper-mid cut and clarity. Found out after 50 years of playing and who-knows-how-many guitars that P-90's were the sound I had been hearing in my head all along - PAF's are nice, but for my style I won't be changing out any time soon...
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