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On a side note I will be there that the difference percieved by a listener is not as dramatic as what I hear playing. One of the biggest to me being the clicking of the pick which listeners can't hear anyway.
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There's a lot to picks beyond how they sound. How much slippage you get when gripping the pick, the comfort level you have in holding the pick. Does the pick feel like part of your hand that you don't really think about any more than you think about moving your fingers.
Picks are also the only part of the whole guitar signal chain that can be micro-adjusted to give you the sound you want. Very small changes in the pick can deliver a brighter or darker sound, more or less volume,more clarity or more warmth. Can't make those small changes by switching strings, reworking the bracing, or re-configuring a set-up. You can easily do it with a pick regardless of whether it is a $0.50 pick or a $50.00 pick. |
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If picks didn't matter we would all have the same pick. I call them 'plectrums' at home, actually, or 'plec'..
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I read a thread on the BlueChip picks a while ago and realized that they were using a form of Vespel (trade name for the Dupont material they use). Well, wouldn't you know, we stock tons of different types of Vespel and have lots of scrap pieces laying around. So, I brought in some pick shapes that I like and machined a couple of picks of varying sizes. My finding when comparing to my other picks at home mirrored Scott's assessment above.
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Different players put different demands on their picks and they have varying expectations. For me, putting some attention into picks has definitely improved my playing. Its made a staggering difference in playing mandolin.
They don't have to cost much, but they have to be configured properly either by the maker or me. Last edited by Kerbie; 07-27-2017 at 07:44 PM. Reason: Deleted quote |
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Your story is almost identical to mine. I bought a tiny piece of that brown stuff, not much bigger than my thumb, for $100, cuz I'm cheap and wanted to make my own. Here I am three years later. What the heck am I doing in the guitar business?! sm |
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Confirmation bias is a real issue. Here is how I tried to get past that.
I took a shot on one of the charmed life picks to see if there was something there (there). My boy and I sat across from each other and went back and forth with a standard nylon pick and the new one on trial. Each of us played both picks, getting to listen as well as play. He is more frugal than me. At the end we both agreed there was a noticeable difference/improvement with the upmarket pick. I can guarantee he would not have gone for the more expensive pick if he did not hear the difference like I did. And now I have started on a journey of trying different picks and it is a lot of fun as well as interesting. Some of them seem to match better with a specific guitar (e.g. 12-string or nylon). Thanks to Scott for starting this cool trip! Holland. |
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Come on, what do you take us for? But I don't blame you, if I was running a business, I, too, would constantly make my brand name as visible as possible, as any publicity is good publicity... Whether that is through bumping old threads, creating topoics "unrelated to my business," claiming that because I refer to my competitors I am not promoting myself... At the end of the day, if you've got the goods to back it up, then the minor annoyance suffered by some from the constant promotion doesn't really matter, and as a sponsor, you have every right to. I just think being upfront about it would make people more comfortable about it. Kind of like that Gravity Picks guy who doesn't try to claim that he's not promoting his stuff. It is what it is.
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[QUOTE=Charmed Life Picks;5424254]I respect you saying that, and sure, I participate in a lot of pick threads, no secret there. I'm actually more interested, though, in promoting the entire category. If you know my history on AGF, I may be the only sponsor on here that consistently recommends other people's products. Every day. Actually this is not for show or for some PR points, but because my profession is a teacher and I enjoy empowering people with knowledge to make their own decisions.
For me, though, there's a more important issue: honesty and fair dealing. In this world we are given only one reputation, to squander or protect as we will. Many years ago I was in sales in the high-end car business, and I saw salespeople on every side of me lie through their teeth to their customers. Here's the funny part: From a purely pragmatic perspective, honesty is the best policy. These guys all around me lying to their customers? They had to remember what lie they told to which customer. I realized that if I just told the same story to everyone -- the truth -- I didn't have to file lies in different parts of my brain for different customers. Problem solved. There are a lot of great pick products on the marketplace. We're just happy to be a part of the conversation. thanks, sm |
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This discussion, which originally appeared on the main board, has been moved to Marketplace. Feel free to comment. I've done a TON of research about industrial plastics, so also feel free to ask me any questions you want.
be well, scott |