JamMan Looper click track

[DesertTwang]

I use a Digitech JamMan for practicing (the old two-pedal version). I'm still getting used to the thing, and I have studied the manual, but haven't found a solution. Here is the issue: The other day, I recorded a progression (acoustic guitar and mic) while I had the JamMan play a click track into my headphones. I was stumped to find that the JamMan added the click track to the recorded loop. Super-annoying. There has to be a way to only hear the click track while recording the loop, but not have it recorded. What am I missing?

[runamuck]

Is the click bleeding through your headphones into the mic? Are your headphones closed back? Can you turn the click down?

[KevWind]

Unless it is bleed as per rumamuck, perhaps more info.

Exact system and setup and routing etc. ? i.e. is the JamMan plugged into your interface? If not then it is most likely bleed.
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[DesertTwang]

Thanks, guys! Your responses confirm a hunch I've had for a long time, namely that I simply don't understand enough about how all this stuff works. I don't even know what "interface" means. I use the JamMan with a mixing board, and since the mic depends on phantom power (provided through the mixer), things get a bit complicated. It took me forever to even get this setup working in the first place, and lots of things still stump me.

Basically, I kept plugging different cables and jacks into different connectors on the mixing board, and pushing buttons until it finally worked. I admit I don't really know what I'm doing. The mixing board came with extremely sparse instructions that seem to require a lot of preexisting knowledge about this stuff. I have to look at my routing because I don't remember how it's all set up.

The click track appearing on the loop is definitely not bleed from the earbuds, but sounds like it was recorded loud and clear through the JamMan, somewhere, somehow.

Do you have any pointers as to how I can educate myself on the ins and out of a proper recording/looper/mixing board setup? I've thought about hiring someone who can give me an hour or two worth of introduction?

Or, perhaps I could post a picture of the routing here? Would that be helpful?

[KevWind]

OK so it sounds like the JamMan is going into your main mix output channels as well as HeadPhone input, and you have the main output channels going to some recording device Yes?

So maybe the best way to go about this is to list your recording chain ( each pice of gear in sequence and exactly what it is brand and model )

Mic into > mixing board , Jamman into > mixing board, then mixing board > into what ?

[DesertTwang]

Originally Posted by KevWind

OK so it sounds like the JamMan is going into your main mix output channels as well as HeadPhone input, and you have the main output channels going to some recording device Yes?

So maybe the best way to go about this is to list your recording chain ( each pice of gear in sequence and exactly what it is brand and model )

Mic into > mixing board , Jamman into > mixing board, then mixing board > into what ?

Awesome. I'll do that. Right now, I'm not using any recording device, just the JamMan itself to record, store and play back loops I record with the microphone. I'll check the setup and write it out when I get home tonight.

[MikeBmusic]

Where is the clicktrack coming from - is this a loop on the JamMan? If so, your JamMan only has the ability to play/record over one loop at a time. You can't play one loop (the click track) and record/play a 2nd loop at the same time.

[DesertTwang]

Originally Posted by MikeBmusic

Where is the clicktrack coming from - is this a loop on the JamMan? If so, your JamMan only has the ability to play/record over one loop at a time. You can't play one loop (the click track) and record/play a 2nd loop at the same time.

The click track is recorded on each brand-new loop that I record, provided I select the click track. I haven't graduated to do overdubs yet, so all the loops I'm recording are super-simple: Choose new (empty) loop, select click track, push "record" pedal, play guitar into mic, push "stop" pedal, save loop. That's all I do. The click track ends up being recorded even if I play it back over headphones, not my monitor speakers, while I'm recording.

For now, I have reverted to using a separate metronome with headphones and selecting "click track off" before recording the loop.

Last night, I discovered another issue: The stop pedal on the JamMan has become unresponsive. When playing back a loop, I have to push it repeatedly before it finally works and playback stops. Could that be a bad or corroded contact? Is that fixable? I was going to open the JamMan on the weekend and check if I can spot corrosion or any other damage. But I'm wondering if that device is maybe just at the end of its life. I bought it used from someone who used it in a band, and clearly had been using it for quite a while.

[DesertTwang]

Here is the setup that I use with my JamMan:

Guitar -> Mic -> Mixer "Mic 1" -> "Insert" jack in same mixer channel -> JamMan "Inst. Input" -> JamMan "Output" -> Mixer "Line In 5/6 Return Left"

I don't know if that makes sense. Should I post a photo?

Thank you!