Rainsong Neck.... - Page 2

Doubleneck · #16 11-22-2015, 08:09 AM

All good points, and I think I am coming off as way to harsh, cause I am not selling my JM 1000. But it seems few admit to what Steelvibe is picking up on and he has grown to like the neck. It is a pretty unique profile which he nor I have experienced in other guitars.

GraceMusik · #17 11-22-2015, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Doubleneck

All good points, and I think I am coming off as way to harsh, cause I am not selling my JM 1000. But it seems few admit to what Steelvibe is picking up on and he has grown to like the neck. It is a pretty unique profile which he nor I have experienced in other guitars.

As to the actual N2 neck, I am by no means an expert on all the various neck profiles, but I personally find the N2 very playable regardless of how unique it is. I definitely prefer the feel and look of a shallower neck profile (like on my Charis), but it's never been a major playability issue for me.

Jimmy Koh · #18 11-22-2015, 09:08 AM

Tried all Rainsong models, except the APLE. And tried all Emerald except the Synergy and Chimaera.

Let's just say I stick to the Emerald for now.

Ted @ LA Guitar Sales · #19 11-22-2015, 09:29 AM

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I am not surprised that your customers preferred the N2 because it had a truss rod. Not sure the N1 had a chance in that scenario...

Well, if my clients were choosing the N2 over the N1 because of the truss rod, than what does that say about the importance of a neck shape?

SteelPastor · #20 11-22-2015, 08:50 PM

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I can only share my personal experience... so here goes.

I currently own two Rainsong guitars--a Shorty and a Nylon Parlor. I love them both. The truss rod being included was a deal-breaker for me. Neck shape is a HUGE deal for me... however having the truss rod is the ball game.

That said... I am a BIG fan of lower profile necks. I have grown comfortable (not fallen in love) with the N2 neck, but given a choice of and N2 neck with a truss rod OR an N1 (or similar) neck WITH a truss rod... it would not even be a discussion. The N1 (or lower profile) neck WITH a truss rod would take the day--every day--and it wouldn't even be close. Again, this is just me. I have been very selective thru the years in obtaining my electric guitars, and because I CAN choose lower profile necks... I DO.

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Finger Stylish · #21 11-23-2015, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Doubleneck

All good points, and I think I am coming off as way to harsh, cause I am not selling my JM 1000. But it seems few admit to what Steelvibe is picking up on and he has grown to like the neck. It is a pretty unique profile which he nor I have experienced in other guitars.

What I percieve to be as far as harshness from you, is not so much with the N2 neck, but rather the N-1 is no longer an option. I get that. Options are what we expect when we're buying high end merchandise.
I do personally believe the N-1 will make a return. If not stop calling the current and only neck "N-2" which would make you surmise there is an "N-1",and just say "The RainSong Neck"

They'll bring it back. Why would any Business, turn away business.
However: I like the N2

GraceMusik · #22 11-23-2015, 06:24 AM

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I do personally believe the N-1 will make a return. If not stop calling the current and only neck "N-2" which would make you surmise there is an "N-1",and just say "The RainSong Neck"

Actually, to me that indicates they will eventually come out with an N3

Finger Stylish · #23 11-23-2015, 11:05 AM

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Actually, to me that indicates they will eventually come out with an N3

That wouldn't shock me.

Doubleneck · #24 11-23-2015, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ted @ LA Guitar Sales

Well, if my clients were choosing the N2 over the N1 because of the truss rod, than what does that say about the importance of a neck shape?

It merely shows the real or perceived importance of the truss rod. It does trump neck profile, in the case of Rainsong, it does for me, as well. I can like live with the N2 if it means I can dial in my perfect setup.

I apologize to the original poster, I took this tread away from your original thoughts and that wasn't for the best.

SpruceTop · #25 11-23-2015, 03:23 PM

I would like to see the N1 Neck offered once again as an option. Also, I do think there will be an N3 Neck in the future. The N2 Neck is okay but I find it gets chunky feeling as I go up the neck.

Doubleneck · #26 11-23-2015, 06:14 PM

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I would like to see the N1 Neck offered once again as an option. Also, I do think there will be an N3 Neck in the future. The N2 Neck is okay but I find it gets chunky feeling as I go up the neck.

I think it will have to be a N3, slimmer neck with a truss rod. Once you offer a truss rod the N1 is dead, can't go backwards.

Oleg · #27 11-24-2015, 03:16 AM

I agree, the N2 neck is awesome! I've had my Smokey for over a month now and I've play it longer on a daily basis than any other guitar I ever owned. My church had a gathering of different churches this past week and instead of all the visiting guitars players setting up their guitars between each other, I just let them all use my Rainsong. They were all very impressed and were asking me about it afterwords.

On a side note, does anyone else with a Rainsong have a slight uneven bulge on the bottom half of the top? It's very minor and I just noticed it a couple days ago. I doubt it affects the sound and it a result from the top being so thin.

mikealpine · #28 11-24-2015, 08:00 AM

I go from a pretty thick Takamine neck (probably my most comfortable of all) to the N2 in my H-OM without any real thought. I think I like a slightly thicker neck, and the inclusion of the truss rod was what made me consider the Rainsong over some other available models. I tried a CA guitar, and when changing saddle height didn't set the action well, and I couldn't adjust the neck relief, it had to go back. The H-OM fits me very well, and the neck is a great match for my hand.

Pitar · #29 11-27-2015, 05:51 PM

I don't think there's a neck I've played that I can claim is unplayable. The guitar itself is a foreign fit to the hand from day one that we must adapt to. The succession of guitars after that suddenly tosses that logic into the trash can as suddenly illogical?

Get my point? If the neck is a different shape but worth adapting to for access to the sound of the guitar, then how is that different than adapting to the very first guitar we all picked up? It was no more familiar to us than another succeeding guitar of a different size/shape neck.

I've played many shapes and sizes of necks. Having a large hand can create muscle cramping with too small a neck because the hand must close down considerably versus the amount needed to play a larger neck. But, that doesn't mean the neck is unplayable. Adapting to it is a necessity but no big deal. As far as a small hand unable to adapt to a large neck, I've seen far too many virtuoso youngsters shredding their way to fame to buy that claim.

What we're really saying is we don't want to adopt and adapt anymore. It has nothing to do with the neck of the guitar but, instead, everything to do with desire. Comfort zones can be restrictive.

steelvibe · #30 11-28-2015, 01:20 AM

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The guitar itself is a foreign fit to the hand from day one that we must adapt to. The succession of guitars after that suddenly tosses that logic into the trash can as suddenly illogical?

If the neck is a different shape but worth adapting to for access to the sound of the guitar, then how is that different than adapting to the very first guitar we all picked up? It was no more familiar to us than another succeeding guitar of a different size/shape neck.

What we're really saying is we don't want to adopt and adapt anymore. It has nothing to do with the neck of the guitar but, instead, everything to do with desire. Comfort zones can be restrictive.

Excellent observations here Pitar

I took the personal elements of how these statements apply to you to reveal just how truthful those statements apply to all of us. Any guitar (especially pertaining to it's neck) will take some time to adjust to, but I find that some guitars are worth the extra time it takes to work through that adjustment period.

Even a custom instrument built to a player's every whim would require a great deal of practice to achieve optimal results.