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Well, the Carbon equivalent would be a Rainsong Jumbo with a 12-string neck no?
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I played a 6 string X30 two years ago and would have gotten one then (if it wasn't that I already had an X20, so I got a Kestrel instead). I think the X30 would make the ideal 12 string body (even without GuitarDoc's and other's input). I have played an X20 - 14 too. It was an awesome instrument, but I am not so besotted that I can't go with something besides Emerald.
Somebody talk me down. What are the cons to getting a carbon fiber or any 12 string? I only see pros other than cost and wait time. It's been a long week. Thank you for the input so far.
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Three years ago I ordered a custom short-scale X20-12 and just love it. The 24.6" scale makes it a delight to play and the tone is really nice. It is so strong that it came with medium gauge 54-12 strings and tuned E-e, for 336 pounds tension -and it arrived from Ireland in tune! I replaced those with light gauge (47-10, 250 pounds total) and did not have to make a truss rod adjustment! I had tried a Chimaera and while it was an awesome piece of art, it did not quite work for my fingerstyle playing style and my left wrist. But I never forgot the twelve string side of that Chimaera and ordered my custom X20-12 within 4-5 months. An X30-12 twelve string would be awesome with all that low end power to offset the jangly treble nature of a "twelver". After X20 or X30, your CF options are.... only Rainsong JM-3000 or WS-3000 now that they have reintroduced them. I had always lusted after a WS-3000 to pair with my WS-1000 but they disappeared from the marketplace before I made my move. Now they are back as of a few months ago. Talk to Ted at LA Guitar Sales and see what he can do. |
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If you want a 12-string Rainsong Parlor, they will build it. Not sure why one would want one, but they can do so. I do think the Windsong body is just right though.
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My dream 12 string would have Gibson Robot Tuners
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I'm trying to enjoy the holidays, but there's an X30-12 haunting my dreams. I like the satin finish of RP's X20-12, but I think I'd like to go with the new X20 fret board design too. How likely will that be a stock option sooner than later for the X30?
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I just wish they'd update the Amicus with the same offset hole design as the guitars. Mr. Hay said it wasn't going to happen a few months ago, when I asked him in an online Q&A - he's very partial to the Amicus the way it is. It will probably change right after I order one
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Alistair has some great ideas going forward. I'm waiting for an email reply from him or his staff before I do anything else. I doubt I'll hear from them over the holidays, so I'll ping them again in the new year if I don't hear anything by then.
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I’ve had an customized Emerald X20-12 for a year and when compared to my Breedlove custom 12, it holds its own, terrific sound, wonderful playability, lightweight (much lighter than the Breedlove although a tad heavier neck/head wise). It is worth mentioning, at least to my ears, that I can’t compare them sonically. CF has its own sound and it is not wood, but I like it and so do the folks who I’ve played with (prior to COVID). The bevel helps it fit so well against my side that I can play it longer than any of my other guitars) and then the fact it stay in tune in all kinds of weather and I don’t have to worry about hot or cold, wet or dry ....and I could go on and on ....
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As a follow-up to previous posts, I'd add that I've had my satin black X20-12 and couldn't be happier with it. Although the satin finish added a few bucks, it was very much worth it to me - cool "stealthy" look that doesn't show fingerprints - but it was offset by ordering without electronics or Hiscox case. Plays and sounds great...
Fast forward to 2:12....
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