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But I am intrigued by the Olsons and Ryans of the world. I would love to try one. I'd likely be just as happy with an Olson in Indian RW as Brazilian. It's the action and tone I'm looking at. |
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Man, you are much more disciplined than I am. When it comes to acoustic guitars I am weak!
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Again, not something for the local big box store tech maybe to perform, but someone with experience in this (Somogyi, Ford). I would think this is a more common repair for classical guitars which are built "as a whole," as there are not many steel string builders now that build in the traditional Spanish style.... |
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One can also re-plane (and then re-fret...doh) the fingerboard ever so slightly, and this would be a whole lot easier than the slipped neckblock repair. The re-planing would be very subtle, and likely not-noticable under the left hand...
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"If it were a question of actually resetting the neck, then the method I employ is the slipped-headblock technique. This requires routing the upper-bout bindings away and prying the back off in the upper bout area, separating the back from the headlock, re-gluing at a better angle, re-binding the upper bout, and refinishing the area that has been worked. It's a bit of a job. I charge $700 for that . . . but it becomes a bit prohibitive by the time you factor in shipping costs too." Considering what I paid for the instrument ($15k), anything under $1k would suit me just fine. I'd be very happy with that. Bill |
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Less than what I would expect for a job of this magnitude...is likely *well* worth it...although perhaps the below is even better! Quote:
Well, there you have it. You could get the relief in better shape *and* create a taller saddle all in one fell swoop. I'd also likely go to Gryphon for this...I've had similar work done on two guitars by them, and the work was perfect. EDIT: Meanwhile, I hope you're still celebrating this new-to-you guitar...it's truly a winner!!!
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I literally haven't put the guitar down since I purchased it. Even though its about 30 years old it still needs to open up quite a bit as the original owner didn't play the instrument in all that time. I'm looking forward to the next year or so and hearing it bloom even more. If the opening up process is anything like what I experienced with my Traugott then this Mod D is going to be unreal. Its amazing how excited one can get over something like a great guitar. Its one of the best feelings in the world to me. My wife thinks I'm nuts. Bill |
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And this message just in from Ervin (replying to my "planing of the fretboard" suggestion):
"Ah-hah! A slight bend in the neck! "Slight" is a very elastic term, and you may have just a bit too much bend. This can be straightened by heat-bending the neck (you heat it up and clamp it into the configuration that you want . . . allowing for springback, of course. When the neck cools you take the clamps off and string it up.) Sometimes this has to be done more than once, but it's a useful technique that has a high rate of success. You can do this with guitars that have truss rods, as well as those lacking them. What makes the technique work is that wood -- unlike, say, concrete or glass -- has a natural plasticity that allows for fibers to be realigned. I mean, that's what side-bending is all about, right? And those sides STAY bent! I can do this, or walk someone through it . . . and it's less than a hundred dollars to do it. It's MUCH less trouble than opening the guitar up and regluing and refinishing. Let me know what you think." |
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I've had a couple of tries with guitars on the "heat" treatment.
Failed utterly, and had to do the re-planing, anyway...but each case is a separate experiment.
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Since Somogyi has the fretboard relief already shaped into the fretboard, to me the sensible thing would be to do the slipped neck block since it will effect the greatest change in saddle height. |
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Yes - I was just saying to my wife a few months ago that I honestly can't think of anything more exciting than a new guitar (I must be getting old - I wouldn't always have said that!). The fact is, it's great getting new instruments which accounts, I think, for the fact that some people flip great guitars - the thrill is the chase. I'll be real interested to hear of your thoughts re the Traugott - two of the very best builders out there but Bordeaux vs. Burgundy. Congrats again. Cheers, Steve |
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Great thread!
I've been meaning to ask Ervin what it would entail getting a neck set done on one of his guitars and this thread has pretty much answered everything. Bill, hope you enjoy your guitar as much as I do. It's a real beauty and Ervin makes incredible guitars. My 2000 12 fret 000 still surprises me every time it's turn arrives on rotation.
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