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Old 01-10-2015, 08:29 AM
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Your still missing the point. Thanks for another chuckle.
If there is a point, I'm proud to miss it.
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I have to chuckle at those in the thread that complain about the musicality of this, when its completely not the point.
Granted speed wasn't the intended point but it becomes so when that makes watching the video distracting. The point is lost.
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If there is a point, I'm proud to miss it.
Then we're both happy. A win-win.
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Any chance that video was sped up? Fast, fast fast. Go, dog go.

To use a vision term, it sounded blurry.
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Old 01-10-2015, 10:08 AM
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these guys do not understand that doing scales fast is a part of musicianship. I guess you think this guy can not play a melody. https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=hb5QaCfm7bg or here https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=iQ8ml7eENuI but wait https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S3D...layer_embedded speed does kill it kills every limited guitar enthusiast out there who does not have a trained ear. maybe this guy is just a hack playing a substandard tune. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WPg...yer_detailpage
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Old 01-10-2015, 10:14 AM
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I guess we need to pay homage to this musician as well.

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Old 01-10-2015, 10:28 AM
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once again we are dealing with untrained ears...the girl was pitchy she did not even do a whole scale and barley a few intervals. while the guitar players ripped on scales and more.. maybe if you took a ear tranning class you would know this. maybe I am to optimistic.
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I guess we need to pay homage to this musician as well.

Missed the point again, my friend.

We are admiring the technique, and that he can have that clean and good of technique even at that speed. It's not the speed that is the focus, but the technique.

The person you posted is an example of speed with little technique. Somewhat the opposite of what the thread is about.

And thank you for another chuckle, my friend.
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once again we are dealing with untrained ears...the girl was pitchy she did not even do a whole scale and barley a few intervals. while the guitar players ripped on scales and more.. maybe if you took a ear tanning class you would know this. maybe I am to optimistic.
My ears are well tanned.
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Old 01-10-2015, 12:25 PM
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these guys do not understand that doing scales fast is a part of musicianship. I guess you think this guy can not play a melody. https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=hb5QaCfm7bg or here https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=iQ8ml7eENuI but wait https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S3D...layer_embedded speed does kill it kills every limited guitar enthusiast out there who does not have a trained ear. maybe this guy is just a hack playing a substandard tune. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WPg...yer_detailpage
Point taken. In the context of a song the speed part has some credence. The slow parts give the piece more emotion and substance. The speed parts just sound redundant Although I am sure the notes are different it is painful for me to listen to. Granted he has skills an certainly far beyond my reach. Just not my cup of tea.
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I think of this as only an exercise in speed, and that's not a bad thing. Thinking about it in that context, I believe that if you can go that fast, it is good for your overall ability to play more melodiously at a slower pace, much in the way that if my car can go from zero-to-60 in 5 seconds, a normal highway merge becomes a piece of cake. I can appreciate the skill and light touch it takes to perform this way. I'd like to hear the same guitarist perform a solo to a nice backing track or something to hear how he applies his abilities.
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Any chance that video was sped up? Fast, fast fast. Go, dog go.

To use a vision term, it sounded blurry.
It could be the modest cell phone vid, a cheap amp, maybe really low action with 8 gauge strings. Something sounded "wrong" with the sound as if it could have been sped up or something.
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but with all my posturing ...the average public in America will get board with nothing but speed. Japan and Asia in general seams to have better trained ears that is where neo-classical/rock-fusion shredders make more money now days.. and why I have returned to Santana to study... the most successful guitarists in history. to learn how he plants a great melody in the mind then expands on it. and keeps the average listener engaged. his use of afro/Cuban rhythms , rock and funk/soul as a arranger and conductor he is tops. my friend says I am dumbing down my music and selling out. I am trying to take a listener with a untrained ear and educate the ear so at the end of a tune they understand the speed and why it is there. and if I can do that ill make good money. I am not only writing new tunes but re writing every thing. not every one took music lit and had to play drop the needle for finales.
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Missed the point again, my friend.

We are admiring the technique, and that he can have that clean and good of technique even at that speed. It's not the speed that is the focus, but the technique.

The person you posted is an example of speed with little technique. Somewhat the opposite of what the thread is about.

And thank you for another chuckle, my friend.

I think you missed your calling being a professor of musicology at Berklee? Since no one here gets your point you should set out a curriculum to instruct us with your vast insight
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ok ill break down what he said.... see man play guitar . he plays very good. see girl she sings bad. the two are not the same. now see woman sing well https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=Br_uUHccEec
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