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Old 02-13-2012, 08:47 PM
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Martin has a Pete Seeger "Sing Out" 12-string baritone. If I were made of money, that's what I would buy.
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:10 PM
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Martin has a Pete Seeger "Sing Out" 12-string baritone. If I were made of money, that's what I would buy.
When I worked at Mandolin Bros. I had the opportunity to play the Veillette bari twelve, and the used Franklin (Nick Kukich) Stella type that they had on consignment, and the Martin Pete Seeger "Sing Out". Of the three, the Martiin was the hands down favorite. It had the best playability and sweet sound. The Veillette had really heavy strings and the longest scale. The Franklin was ladder braced and had a punchy,vintage sound...interesting, but the Martin was the one I'd go home with.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:40 AM
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Frankly it's not the cost, or my trepidation at the octaves. It's the whole 12 string thing! I'm so done with 12 strings. The tuning. The blood loss during string changes...

Kind of like red sports good. They look great... With other people driving them

Of course when I see one you KNOW I'm picking it up and giving it a go!
OK, we get it. You don't like 12's.
Some of the rest of us do.
Here's my Stella Leadblelly copy...





Strings are .062-.015 and tuned to B.
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:54 AM
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OK, we get it. You don't like 12's.
Some of the rest of us do.
Here's my Stella Leadblelly copy...





Strings are .062-.015 and tuned to B.
As the kids say today OMGoodness Gracious! The world is a more beautiful place because you made that.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:08 PM
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Default Baritone 12

I made one last year; pics on www.nikosapollonio.com
Gordon Bok uses 4 of my 12 stringers, all tuned CFBbEbGC. Same body pretty much, different materials & one is a cutaway. David Foley near me has a true baritone, ADGCFA.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:23 PM
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The first place I would check out is Villette guitars. I've played their baritone and it is great. They do make a 12 string version of it.
They are very good people to deal with.
http://veilletteguitars.com/acoustic...l#.UMUq42t5mSM
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:32 PM
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I have a Del' Arte Leadbelly - like Neal's but no 'burst ! I tune it to C and use Newtone Customs - 64/32 to 14/14 It is not difficult to play but it is not the same instrument as a six string.

Toby W played it on his last visit to the UK.

It sounds like the blues even if you just drop it!

For non blues material I use a rebuilt D12-20 tuned to D (EJ37s)
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Old 05-05-2013, 05:29 AM
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Default baritone 12 string

New cedar and mahogany baritone 12, jumbo, cedar top mahogany body.
14 fret , 25 21/32 scale, currently tuned CFBbEbGc. Pics and price on request. Nikos
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Old 05-05-2013, 06:01 AM
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I play a Rainsong 12 string all the time, but just thinking about the thickness of the strings on one of these hurts my fingertips!
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Old 08-02-2015, 05:11 AM
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Default baritone strings

I´m joining in a bit late...

I´ve made an 8-string acoustic baritone guitar last year ( like the Taylor 8-string) and
am now building a 12-string baritone guitar with a Florentine cutaway, 27 inch scale.
I´m wondering what string gauges would be fitting both of these two. With the 8-string I´m now using Elixir Phosphor Bronze ones which aren´t too bad.
Any alternative ?

For the 12-string baritone I´m still looking for the right strings and would like to know any alternative - if anyone has experience...

The 12-string Veillette baritone is using strings going down to 0.80
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Old 08-02-2015, 06:12 AM
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Default 12 string bari

As Neal knows, National makes them. Maybe Santa Cruz too. Lots of individual luthiers can do it as well. Taylor makes (made?) an 8 string shorter scale baritone which might fill the bill for you. Being Taylor, they are probably easier to obtain or to try out.
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Old 08-02-2015, 06:45 AM
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I use elixir heavy 12 strings 13-56 on my Fender 12 string 25.4 which is good for slide in B but I think you want to look at the longer scales 26+ for picking.

They make baritone strings for the 12 string but I think you might want to consider a second nut cut to accomodate that set up the bass is very heavy as mentioned earlier.

Vintage stella would be my choice for a baritone along the lines of Willie Mctell but I believe he played way down several steps and may have used an octave on the b string to provide tension instead of a matched.

If you're in the UK you might look into the Paul Brett - it's well thought of
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Old 08-02-2015, 10:45 AM
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Paul Geremia on a Froggy Bottom Stella-style 12-string in Open D tuned down two whole steps:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQGN6cmDvs
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Old 08-02-2015, 01:54 PM
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His website is still there.... so I assume Nikos Apollonio is still making guitars. His site says that he specializes in 12 string guitars. I owned one long ago... wish I hadn't traded it. You might contact him in Camden, ME.
He shows a 12 string Baritone on his website.

http://www.nikosapollonio.com/index.html
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Old 08-02-2015, 02:26 PM
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I can think of three different configurations regarding to "baritone" 12string.
long scale, 28.6" by Doug Young


multiscale, 25.5"~27" by Steve Davison


all octave tuning 12string. 22.7"~25.5" (a monster in my opinioin)
by Stevie Coyle
http://www.yamamotoguitar.com/videoClips/MVI_3502.html
by Victor Tsaran
http://www.yamamotoguitar.com/videoClips/MVI_3359.html

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