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Peavey sold their parts inventory to a third party a few years ago that looked like a liquidation activity to me and my understanding moved production offshore.
The trend seems to be pricepoint in a Made in China global electronics marketplace. . and also the proliferation of heavy discounted music gear available on craigslist and ebay... And maybe the game Guitar Hero is responsible too... Last edited by Tommy_G; 10-13-2017 at 11:45 AM. |
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Here is what is currently on their web sight "Every MESA/Boogie, including all the cabinets, is entirely made in our one location here in Petaluma, California, where we’ve been since 1980."
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California does have a high business cost. And in spite of California's high business cost, Forbes still ranks the state 4th in Growth Prospects. Carvin, in this case was already an established CA company. They already had the regulatory issues behind them and had their compliance processes in place. And they had the real estate. So two of the major CA negatives were behind them. Who knows maybe the property was worth more than the company. There are CA companies that make good money stuffing boards for other applications. Maybe they can make better money that way without sweating product development and marketing. Just market a skill set. OTH In the end, probably just a market niche that changed to the point they couldn't compete. OTOH maybe they were already outsourcing board assembly and don't have that skill to market. In the end, probably just a market niche that changed to the point they couldn't compete. And as I stated earlier, dismal resale kept them down the list in the flipper market. hunter |
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Regardless of the reasons, more businesses and Americans are leaving California than moving there. With Carvin it's likely a combination of the widely known friction of running a business in that state, changes in the market niche you cite, and possibly just the weariness of dealing with the never-ending knife-fight of running most companies. Sad to see them go. |
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Looks like a false memory moment... Getting more of those as I get older... I erased that part of my post because I think MESA wouldnt appreciate it... Last edited by Tommy_G; 10-13-2017 at 11:46 AM. |
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Mississippi has many, many challenges; a small (3 million) poorly educated population is certainly near or at the top of the list. That said, within a fifteen minute drive from my house is a large commercial drone manufacturer, a Yokohama tire plant (one of four to be built on that location), a Paccar engine plant, American Eurocopter, which assembles helicopters, and a large state of the art rolled steel mill. Less than two hours away are a Toyota and Nissan plant.
Labor is cheap here and unions are unheard of. Access to large ports in the Gulf are only a few hours away, as are Memphis and Birmingham. The cost of living is very low and my friends who visit from Boston and South Florida say the house prices, even for custom homes, is half of their cost. There are also many drawbacks, the abject poverty and lingering vestiges of race issues. I moved down here in 1984 from Philly. Brought (what I thought) were my hot jazz fusion DiMeola, Metheny chops with me and got schooled real quick on what it meant to say something musically with just a few notes. Blues music is not only alive in Mississippi, it is truly steeped into the culture. I guess those of us who live hear need to work hard to improve the things that needs improving but at the same time I wouldn't tried the music, weather, bass fishing, hospitality, southern women, and year round tennis for anything.
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Mississippi has many, many challenges; a small (3 million) poorly educated population is certainly near or at the top of the list. That said, within a fifteen minute drive from my house is a major research university, a large commercial drone manufacturer, a Yokohama tire plant (one of four to be built on that location), a Paccar engine plant, American Eurocopter, which assembles helicopters, and a large state of the art rolled steel mill. Less than two hours away are Toyota and Nissan plants.
Labor is cheap here and unions are unheard of. Access to large ports in the Gulf are only a few hours away, as are Memphis and Birmingham. The cost of living is very low and my friends who visit from Boston and South Florida say the house prices, even for custom homes, is half of their cost. There are also many drawbacks, the abject poverty and lingering vestiges of race issues. I moved down here in 1984 from Philly. Brought (what I thought) were my hot jazz fusion DiMeola, Metheny chops with me and got schooled real quick on what it meant to say something musically with just a few notes. Blues music is not only alive in Mississippi, it is truly steeped into the culture. I guess those of us who live hear need to work hard to improve the things that needs improving but at the same time I wouldn't tried the music, weather, bass fishing, BBQ, hospitality, southern women, and year round tennis for anything.
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I'll miss Carvin's boards. They are alarmingly tough - I've seen a 32-ch board get dropped and work fine.
Their powered speakers are great for low-budget setups, too. ...hopefully Kiesel will keep making the Holdsworth guitars. Been promising myself one for years and hope they don't decide to simplify their offerings bc of the separate audio business closing. |
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As an enthusiastic AG300 owner, and a longtime user of their PA gear, I find this a sad situation. I've always admired their business model, but there are so many consumers driven by marketing and hype. Only one artist endorsement ( Steve Vai?) and every retailer bad mouthing their products ( no profits for them).
As far as my AG300, better sounding than the Fishmans I've played through and not Schertler expensive.
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Wonder what choice that leaves Vai now? Buy the designs and take them to another manufacturer???
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Let me clarify this... ALL Mesa products are manufactured at the Petaluma CA factory. There are no products manufactured overseas.
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A friend of mine was at the Carvin showroom in San Diego last week and they are still moving some things out. Sad that one of the pillars of music equipment is saying goodbye.
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