Cultural Appropriation?

[zabdart]

It's all about the Disney-fication of our culture, folks.
"If you can't say something nice, don't say nothing at all." -- Thumper
Unfortunately, we're not all cartoon animals living in the forest with Beethoven playing in the background. Some of us have to live and work in the real world, in which things are not so nice.

[Wengr]

Never in my life have I considered not using the n word to be PC.
Basic decency, reasonable common sense behavior yes, but certainly not under the umbrella of PC.

[Wengr]

Originally Posted by zabdart

It's all about the Disney-fication of our culture, folks.
"If you can't say something nice, don't say nothing at all." -- Thumper
Unfortunately, we're not all cartoon animals living in the forest with Beethoven playing in the background. Some of us have to live and work in the real world, in which things are not so nice.

Exactly. And imo, the damage done while unwilling or unable to speak up is considerable.

[buddyhu]

Originally Posted by zabdart

It's all about the Disney-fication of our culture, folks.
"If you can't say something nice, don't say nothing at all." -- Thumper
Unfortunately, we're not all cartoon animals living in the forest with Beethoven playing in the background. Some of us have to live and work in the real world, in which things are not so nice.

I think you are overlooking something.

It is a question of what works. When your kid misbehaves, you don't just say the first thing that comes into your head (hopefully). You reflect on what has happened, and your kids developmental level, and you try to craft an effective communication. Same thing with your wife or friends...if they upset you, you try to have a good, clear, effective communication about the problem or point of difference, and you self-censor words and concepts that will distract and/or unnecessarily inflame (at least, that is what I have learned to do, and it works much better than just "speaking my mind"). Because the goal is to have a good relationship, not to simply discharge your own discomfort, or to impose your will on the other.

Some folks seem to believe that "the real world" does not warrant that kind of attention and care. Others feel that being similarly conscientious while in "the real world" is the only hope for negotiating times of conflict and darkness.

We all get to choose...

[bagpipe]

Originally Posted by sunaj

Most people have no idea how controlled speech is in Canada,
there are actually people in prison/fined for stating certain beliefs in Canada

What? Not sure if joking.

You're going to have to back that statement up with some examples.

[harmonics101]

Carl's JR. - the epitome of PC in television advertising,

H

[fazool]

Originally Posted by sunaj

Most people have no idea how controlled speech is in Canada,
there are actually people in prison/fined for stating certain beliefs in Canada

I am not Canadian. I grew up on the border of Canada - literally on the borderline. Canadiana is a not-small part of my upbringing.

I have a very hard time believing your statement to be anything more than an extremist opposition conspiracy theory.

I did some reading and, from what I can gather, the non-defamation and anti-hate-speech regulations have been controversially applied and some might argue that it's a tightening control. But, I do not think the way you present it is fair or accurate.

There are people in prison in the USA for stating certain beliefs and that is justified: I won't repeat those beliefs here as an example because I don't want to trigger some DHS/NSA search and have explaining to do

[Herb Hunter]

Originally Posted by Twelvefret

Speaking of extremities, not all black people are African Americans.
http://theracecardproject.com/im-bla...ican-american/

It seems your spell checker interpreted a typographical misspelling of, extremes, as, extremities.

Yes, some blacks might be immigrants from Haiti or other Caribbean countries or they could even be African-Britons but, to be technically precise we are all of African origin.

[Herb Hunter]

Originally Posted by Wengr

Never in my life have I considered not using the n word to be PC.
Basic decency, reasonable common sense behavior yes, but certainly not under the umbrella of PC.

It seems to me that avoiding the use of the n word out of basic decency and reasonable common sense meets the very definition of political correctness.

political correctness |pəˈlɪdəkəl kəˈrɛk(t)nəs| (also political correctitude)

noun

the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.

[harmonics101]

Cultural Appropriation is just a fancy schmancy term meaning discrimination,

H

If someone of Chinese decent wants to participate in the reenactment of the Revolutionary War, surely, I do not have a problem with this

[ewalling]

Originally Posted by Herb Hunter

It seems to me that avoiding the use of the n word out of basic decency and reasonable common sense meets the very definition of political correctness.

political correctness |pəˈlɪdəkəl kəˈrɛk(t)nəs| (also political correctitude)

noun

the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.

I think PC is an example of a term whose connotations have deteriorated over time, which is a common feature of language. Whereas it once correlated with the above definition, it seems now to be used exclusively by those who wish to denigrate its excesses. As such, it appears that 'PC' can no longer be used other than pejoratively.

[harmonics101]

I disagree that Political Correctness has become a pejorative (degraded / deteriorated) term.

To me, it has always meant>

Political Correctness = Walking on Eggshells,

H

NOW, whomever deems to determine what is PC and what is not, that I do believe has deteriorated. TOO many things are now considered not PC in my opinion

[GraceMusik]

Originally Posted by harmonics101

NOW, whomever deems to determine what is PC and what is not, that I do believe has deteriorated. TOO many things are now considered not PC in my opinion

Some people seem to make a hobby out of being offended and seem to seek out controversy or make up some when they can't find any.

[harmonics101]

Originally Posted by GraceMusik

Some people seem to make a hobby out of being offended and seem to seek out controversy or make up some when they can't find any.

^^^^^^^^ 100% agreement on this,

H

[fazool]

Originally Posted by GraceMusik

Some people seem to make a hobby out of being offended ....

And some make a career out of it.....