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Old 12-23-2017, 09:55 AM
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It's all in what you're used to.

I was born and raised in the USA so I'm used to our system, but fully understand base ten is simpler than fractions.
I worked in a field requiring metric so I'm pretty fluent with both ...

but ...

I'm not fluent (deeply annoyed, actually) with fractions denominators of 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, etc.

When reading a guitar has a 1 3/4 vs. a 1 11/16 nut, I have to stop and think in my head ... Oh, the denominator of the first must be multiplied by 4 to get the denominator of the second, so I have to also multiply the numerator of the first by 4 to compare the first fraction to the second.


What a hassle!

In decimal it requires no time or thinking to instantly just know that 1.9 is that much larger than 1.75 cm.

But hearing the weight of people in stone makes my eyes cross for a fortnight.
I find it easier to visualise 20 stone than 280 pounds. In either case you're overweight!
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Old 12-23-2017, 09:58 AM
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I grew up with American standard measurements. My Canadian wife grew up with Imperial measurements. She started reading this thread and now our household
is having a big time disagreement. Thanks y'all for making this Christmas the December to remember.
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Old 12-23-2017, 10:05 AM
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I saw the humor in the OP's post and took it to be ... humor.
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Old 12-23-2017, 10:15 AM
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...It's not as though the strings and the fretboard are both straight lines..
I sure hope, at least, one of thoses are straight (so long as witness points have been set ).

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I grew up with American standard measurements. My Canadian wife grew up with Imperial measurements. She started reading this thread and now our household
is having a big time disagreement. Thanks y'all for making this Christmas the December to remember.
Here's a collective YOU'RE WELCOME!
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Imperial measurements are only better if you don't understand metric.
I understand both. I've but I don't think either one is exclusively better in real world application.

Esperanto is arguably easier to learn and speak than most other languages. It's been around for quite a while but we can all see how well it's caught on.

If everyone was taught Esperanto exclusively, they'd all have to learn a second language anyway to understand anything written or recorded in any other language...almost none of which is written or recorded in Esperanto.

There is a wealth of information that was recorded using imperial measurements...metric, too. It's so easy to use whichever system you grew up with, or learn both, or convert, which isn't rocket science. For a lot of applications, you don't have to do either. It seems every ruler I own has inches on one side and centimeters on the other. Duh.

Every so often there is a movement to convert the whole imperial world to metric. It never happens. There just isn't a need, and there are practical drawbacks.

And I can adjust the action on my guitars without knowing either system.
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Read through the entire thread, and the debate on imperial versus metric and thousandth's versus hundredth's and decimals versus fractions. Conclusion may be ignorance is bliss or as stated below.

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Don’t have any measuring tools at age 62 and not about to go buy any. So, low, medium, and high for me.
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3 and 61/64 inches
Did you do this in your head and if so, how long did it take to figure it out?
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.... these gauges are really really cheap, and will enhance your ability to talk meaningfully about action ... like tenfold.
Someone was hoping for 5 pages on this thread, so thought I'd contribute my part.

I just want to know how the OP came up with the number "tenfold"? Why not ninefold? What measure are we using here? And how is it going to help me talk more "meaningfully" on a scale of 1-10?
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I have one of these and think it's a great tool to have.




http://www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools...SABEgLf3fD_BwE
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Most of my Collings are set up with whilst they describe as
"2/32" treb, and 3/32" bass, by which I assume they mean .625" and .9337"
Oops. I think you mean .0625" and .09375" - .625" (or 5/8") and .9375" (or 15/16") would be a muscular action indeed!

And don't you mean 1/16" rather than 2/32", after your admonition to reduce, earlier?
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And don't you mean 1/16" rather than 2/32", after your admonition to reduce, earlier?
Touché!

Let's keep this thread going, folks.
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[QUOTE=Silly Moustache;5578036]I'm so old that I started off playing lute, and studied engineering in Imperial because we still had an Empire , but my guitar tech is a generation younger than me so he works in millipedes.

Millipedes, love it!
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Silly Moustache: Always remember that "A pint's a pound the world around" except here in San Francisco where a pint will cost you at least six bucks! (don't know what that is in Sterling)
$6 is about £4.50. Which is about what we pay for a pint - but that would be good English ale!
We still serve beer in pints.
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We measure in 64ths of an average size ladybug, over here, for small things, and in 10ths of a typical adult Praying Mantis for bigger objects.
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Someone was hoping for 5 pages on this thread, so thought I'd contribute my part.

I just want to know how the OP came up with the number "tenfold"? Why not ninefold? What measure are we using here? And how is it going to help me talk more "meaningfully" on a scale of 1-10?
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