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Drop ceiling or sheet rock

So moved into the new house and I'm debating whether to put a drop ceiling in or sheet rock with resilient channels in the basements, Regardless of which I choose I will have rock wool (safe and sound) in between the joists

There is minimal piping and electrical in the ceiling, just a bit of HVAC ducts (which would be turned off during recording.

The main purpose is to block the TV and chatter from the room above. There is Minimal transmission of foot steps but there is some. So would there be a big difference between the 2 set ups. Still have to get a quote on both but I am going under the assumption that a drop ceiling is less expensive (I can do the drop ceiling - Sheet rock and mud is not something I am up for)

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I just recently did a room acoustic treatment.

The sheetrock is smooth and hard and will not absorb much sound. It will create a reverberation like a bathtub. I suggest drop tile ceilings with wool above it.
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I'd go with the sheet rock/rock wool combo for one simple reason: Down the road, you may want to install panels on the ceiling above your recording area and if you have sheet rock up, you'll be able to fasten panels, whereas with a drop ceiling you can't really add anything later.
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I just recently did a room acoustic treatment.

The sheetrock is smooth and hard and will not absorb much sound. It will create a reverberation like a bathtub. I suggest drop tile ceilings with wool above it.
Hey Fazool

Thanks for the info
Did you use any special kind of tiles as part of the sound treatment,
How far does your ceiling drop
Was the wool resting on the tiles or higher into joists
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I'd go with the sheet rock/rock wool combo for one simple reason: Down the road, you may want to install panels on the ceiling above your recording area and if you have sheet rock up, you'll be able to fasten panels, whereas with a drop ceiling you can't really add anything later.
I do have several panels (real traps) for the walls and I was wondering if you could have small holes in the tiles that you can run some wires from the joists. You would not see them if they were close to the ceiling. Just thinking out of the box.
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I'd go with a drop ceiling with the rock wool & if you found you needed a little more absorption above your listening or playing/recording position you can use these: https://www.atsacoustics.com/acousti...ing-panel.html
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I'd go with a drop ceiling with the rock wool & if you found you needed a little more absorption above your listening or playing/recording position you can use these: https://www.atsacoustics.com/acousti...ing-panel.html
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I do have several panels (real traps) for the walls and I was wondering if you could have small holes in the tiles that you can run some wires from the joists. You would not see them if they were close to the ceiling. Just thinking out of the box.
I hadn't thought of doing it that way, but yes, that would work. I think with that solution in mind, you can go with whatever looks best to you unless you're going to invest in those drop-ceiling acoustic panels that were linked (or some similar product). I'm not sure how well those work though. My early bad experiences with foam make me a bit skeptical about stuff like that.

I eventually wound up using GIK panels for my room. I've got 4 bass traps and I have 3 acoustic panels mounted to the ceiling above the spot where I record and listen to playback.
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Acousticcally, I think you'll do better with a drop ceiling.
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Acousticcally, I think you'll do better with a drop ceiling.
That's the way I'm leaning. If I stay away from the kits it would be more economical.

Just need to research the best and most cost effective tiles (that also look good)
The set up is mainly for recording acoustic instruments and vocals (no loud amplification)
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That's the way I'm leaning. If I stay away from the kits it would be more economical.

Just need to research the best and most cost effective tiles (that also look good)
The set up is mainly for recording acoustic instruments and vocals (no loud amplification)
Remember in terms of room acoustics there are two different considerations.
Isolation and reflections
While a drop ceiling would probably have better potential for isolation from noise from the floor above for recording . For mixing and reflections, you still might want the option of some wires (as you mentioned) to hang some of absorption panels above the area of your mixing position (sometimes called a cloud) as well as first reflection points on the walls and bass traps at corners etc.
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If you are talking about affixing the sheetrock directly to the joists, then drop ceiling will be better, unless you want to put in two layers of sheetrock glued together.
If you leave some space between the drop ceiling and joists above it, you can stuff in more rockwool (or even pink fiberglass) for extra absorption.

To hang cloud traps (or anything else) from the drop ceiling, use some of these:
https://www.amazon.com/Baumgartens-S...eiling+hangers
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If you are talking about affixing the sheetrock directly to the joists, then drop ceiling will be better, unless you want to put in two layers of sheetrock glued together.
If you leave some space between the drop ceiling and joists above it, you can stuff in more rockwool (or even pink fiberglass) for extra absorption.

To hang cloud traps (or anything else) from the drop ceiling, use some of these:
https://www.amazon.com/Baumgartens-S...eiling+hangers
If I were to go the sheet rock route, there would be resilient channels on the joists with the rock wool above. For my purposes (acoustic guitar and voice) I'm still leaning Towards the drop ceiling with the rock wool above. Just need to figure out how to securely hang the cloud traps above. The link mikeBmuisc sent looks viable as long as the grid is secure.
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With a drop ceiling you leave your floor area still accessible to adding wiring for plugs, fixing pipe leaks, etc. The sheetrock/drywall would make the regular home ownership future task more difficult.
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I hadn't thought of doing it that way, but yes, that would work. I think with that solution in mind, you can go with whatever looks best to you unless you're going to invest in those drop-ceiling acoustic panels that were linked (or some similar product). I'm not sure how well those work though. My early bad experiences with foam make me a bit skeptical about stuff like that.

I eventually wound up using GIK panels for my room. I've got 4 bass traps and I have 3 acoustic panels mounted to the ceiling above the spot where I record and listen to playback.
They are fabric covered rigid fiberglass (similar to OC703) not foam...they work quite well.
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