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I concur 100% with what Doug has suggested. Furthermore, our bass player often asks that I use the board’s EQ to build him a bigger playground (cut my guitar’s bass way back, and trim his top end).
I just picked up a Radial PZ-DI. This is a well made DI box with an adjustable HPF. For my OO sized guitar, the DI’s filter is at about noon and the Lyric’s presence is about ¼ turn from zero. The sound is pretty good, it allows the board’s EQ to be nearly flat, and is in keeping with my “don’t add more pre-amps” philosophy.
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The monitors I was using were very high end. I have no reason to believe that they were the issue. I just stand by the fact that the Lyric facing directly at me in the monitors just does not sound/feel great to me meaning I need a second source. It's kind of like when you pick up a guitar and strum it for the first time and realize it's not as full as you were hoping. It kind of impacts your playing. |
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Very helpful response and for the record, I think you've communicated very clearly on the issue. "Feel" definitely affects a performers....er....performance, so I totally agree this small thing is in fact a big deal. Do you have an opportunity to play a guitar with an Anthem? It may be very helpful if you could A/B your lyric equipped guitar next to an anthem equipped one. Of course, usual disclaimers of different guitars/different sounds. It sounds to me that what you're ultimately looking for is not well offered by the Lyric, unless somehow the monitor can be uniquely eq'd. But between Anthem, K&K and Lyric I agree that the Lyric sounds thinnest. |
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Great! Keep us posted on what you find. Lots of folks around here looking to perfect the Lyric with other options.
And yep, no question, the Anthem adds some quack (although not as much as a stand alone UST) AND many folks feel that the installation of the Bagss UST detracts from the acoustic sound of the guitar unplugged. |
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I agree with this. When faced with a band scenario, just the Lyric isn't what most players want to hear. I have no experience with the Anthem SL in a band scenario but I do in a duet. It works great and I really like the natural acoustic tones of the microphone with a little UST for bottom and punch. I'm pretty certain this particular combo would be fine in a band situation. If I were playing in a band a lot it seems sound hole pickups are better suited for that. |
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I run the lyric in my Pono L-30 quite a small guitar. At fist I struggled with the sound and wondered if I made a mistake. Using the presence I could not get an adjustment of usable sound. There was a frequency that just raked on my nerves. I ended up using an acoustic play as my DI but after making some cuts on some frequencies the end result is a very natural sound and a fairly nice representation of my guitar only louder and as if I was playing it in a room with nice acoustics.
In finding the bad frequencies I ended up using an analyzer and found that the guitar acoustically peaked in a few frequencies. The lyric seemed to amplify those frequencies a little extra. So I cut on those frequencies using the acoustic play and then analyzed direct through my Play. I kept tweaking until the analyzer looked close to the graph of the guitar when played acoustically. Then I just add what reverb etc. to taste. The analyzers were downloaded and I used 3 different ones to gain averages but they all seemed to work fine. After I used them to get close I really tweaked off my ears and going back and forth between plugged and unplugged. Okay here's the main point. For me the lyric truly represented the guitar but exemplified some peak frequencies that were prominent acoustically but sound natural. Once tamed down it really is my guitar only louder. Instead of adding so much bottom end that most yearn to hear when plugged in. I added a stomp box instead when I need the extra bottom end. Works for me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |