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Old 06-13-2012, 08:31 AM
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Default Bourgeois OM advice needed....

I am stuck deciding between a 2003 Bourgeois OM with Adirondack top and Mahogany back & sides and a 2005 Bourgeois Vintage OM with Adirondack top and East Indian Rosewood back & sides. Both guitars are near mint.

I play 95% fingerstyle, I love rosewood and mahogany OMs, and I tend to play in dropped tunings, mostly dropped D, open G, and DADGAD. I will not have the ability to play either guitar before buying.

Any opinions/experience/advice to help me decide?

Thanks in advance,

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Old 06-13-2012, 08:38 AM
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IRW - looks nicer and tone difference will be minimal
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:39 AM
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do you like rosewood or mahogany better?
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:41 AM
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do you like rosewood or mahogany better?
I love them both. I have a Collings OM1A (mahogany) which makes me smile just as much as my Santa Cruze OM/PW (rosewood). I just don't know Bourgeois guitars very well and was wondering if Dana had more magic with one wood combo than another.
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:44 AM
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best bourgeois I've played was a rosewood, but I'm a rosewood guy

whats the better deal? are both necks the same?
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IRW - looks nicer and tone difference will be minimal
Thanks Rupert - amazing songs and playing on your Quadraped CD - really enjoying it! I'm a fellow Lowden fan (O10c).
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Scott,
I have only played the eir/adi version. It is a used pre-pantheon/Dana built one here in St. Augustine for $2,400 and it is a tone monster. It is so broken in and plays like butta, but does show some wear. If I didn't already have 3 fine ladies I might jump on this one. I like both eir and mahogany, but this adi/eir is a great combo and really has it all. As primarily a flesh f/s player, I enjoyed all aspects of this particulr guitar for my style of attack. Without getting overly into adjectives, i would say this guitar was very balanced with that nice eir overtone and slight natural reverb. Not like a Goody or a Lowden, but still rich and a bit more fundemental.

Again I can only give an opinion on this particular guitar, but I am sure the hog sounds good in its own right. I have liked all the Bourgeois' I've played so imho I believe there is some consistency there.

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Thanks Rupert - amazing songs and playing on your Quadraped CD - really enjoying it! I'm a fellow Lowden fan (O10c).
Thanks :-)

I have just 4 CDs left for sale so if you want one better be quick, once they're gone, they're gone!

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best bourgeois I've played was a rosewood, but I'm a rosewood guy

whats the better deal? are both necks the same?
Thanks Eric. The necks are the same. The mahogany OM is $500 less than the rosewood OM and it is a standard version, not vintage like the rosewood OM.
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Thanks :-)

I have just 4 CDs left for sale so if you want one better be quick, once they're gone, they're gone!

Next album in progress...
Done! Looking forward to the next CD...
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Scott,
I have only played the eir/adi version. It is a used pre-pantheon/Dana built one here in St. Augustine for $2,400 and it is a tone monster. It is so broken in and plays like butta, but does show some wear. If I didn't already have 3 fine ladies I might jump on this one. I like both eir and mahogany, but this adi/eir is a great combo and really has it all. As primarily a flesh f/s player, I enjoyed all aspects of this particulr guitar for my style of attack. Without getting overly into adjectives, i would say this guitar was very balanced with that nice eir overtone and slight natural reverb. Not like a Goody or a Lowden, but still rich and a bit more fundemental.

Again I can only give an opinion on this particular guitar, but I am sure the hog sounds good in its own right. I have liked all the Bourgeois' I've played so imho I believe there is some consistency there.

Best wishes,

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Thanks noledog! That's another vote for EIR....
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:59 AM
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Dana does them both very well. I have a Mahogany/Adi and it's really sweet.
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Thanks Eric. The necks are the same. The mahogany OM is $500 less than the rosewood OM and it is a standard version, not vintage like the rosewood OM.
Are the two guitars of the same era? Some earlier guitars with pyramid bridges were braced and voiced for light strings - the belly bridge is usually voiced for medium strings.

I've a OMS cutaway (adi/eir) with pyramid bridge that is absolutely lovely. In these size bodies, I tend to prefer rosewood.
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:14 AM
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I don't think it comes down to the woods, it comes down to the individual guitars.

I have 3 Martin OM/000's, Adi over Mahogany, Alpine over Madagascar, Engelmann over Tasmanian Blackwood, no wood combination is superior, they are different.

If possible I would play both Bourgeois, forget the woods, and see which one your ears like best. Nobody can type on a keyboard on an Internet forum and figure out which guitar is better, for themselves let alone a stranger.

If there is no way you can play them, including eating shipping which I would consider so I could A/B, being mostly fingertstyle as you stated I would slightly lean towards the rosewood. Good Luck!!
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:19 AM
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You said you can't play before you buy, but have you heard them? Maybe the seller would willing to send you some sound clips.
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