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Old 08-15-2023, 09:52 AM
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I'm running my Electric guitar into a Gemini Array PA and only one of my pedals works?
Behringer GD21 Doesn't have enough clean volume unless I put the channel on mic mode and then it distorts and it the same with my Joyo American
Only my Zoom G1 Four works and I'm not totally happy with the sound

So any idea's for a better amp simulator pedal??
maybe the Boss IR200 ??
Or ??
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Old 08-15-2023, 10:35 AM
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I'm running my Electric guitar into a Gemini Array PA and...Only my Zoom G1 Four works and I'm not totally happy with the sound

So any ideas for a better amp simulator pedal...Or??
How about a lightweight amp that has the sound[s] you want, enough grunt to handle most gigs straight-up, and a DI out that you can run to the PA if necessary - something like the Line 6 Catalyst:



https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...ombo-amplifier
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The new line of TC pedals might do the trick without breaking the bank. I have a UA American Dream I really like but this one is less than half the price: TC Combo Deluxe.

https://www.tcelectronic.com/product...odelCode=P0EB7
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The new line of TC pedals might do the trick without breaking the bank. I have a UA American Dream I really like but this one is less than half the price: TC Combo Deluxe.

https://www.tcelectronic.com/product...odelCode=P0EB7
I just thought about what you use to use...The Mustang Micro..How did that sound?
I basically want a good Clean and maybe a slight driven Clean
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How about a lightweight amp that has the sound[s] you want, enough grunt to handle most gigs straight-up, and a DI out that you can run to the PA if necessary - something like the Line 6 Catalyst:



https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...ombo-amplifier
Most of my stuff will be lower volume and I'm trying to keep the gear to a minimum.....I like the idea but being solo I don't need to push a lot of air.
Thanks for the idea, I do like the idea tho..
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I was using Wireless transmitters and they must of been a mismatch
I just used cords and the Joyo American works great and sounds great!!
I haven't tried the Behringer yet but it's a little more aggressive than I want so I'm not worried about it..
The American is working..Yeah!!!..
I just tried the Behringer and it sounds great with a little hair on it.. it's a toss-up so far with the American

I'm still open to better-sounding pedals..so bring them on

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Old 08-16-2023, 05:51 AM
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I just thought about what you use to use...The Mustang Micro..How did that sound?
I basically want a good Clean and maybe a slight driven Clean
Mustang Micro will do the job. Here is what’s missing:

Bass tone control which is important if your using the same powered speaker on the floor and pole mounted.

No pre only post volume control. The clean models are set with pre gain high so you must roll back the guitar volume for actual clean.

No 1/4” output. 3.5mm is easily dislodged.

No foot switches.

Coarse control of reverb and treble eq.

The big pluses are size and battery.
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The Joyo American Sound is my favorite always-on pedal. HOWEVER it can introduce a lot of hiss if you keep the drive up. I keep mine as low as possible. Even then I use a noise gate (a Donner) most of the time. I like to play as clean as possible so the AS is great if I tame some of its tones.

Still I think you would do better with a dedicated guitar amp rather than a P.A. system unless I'm missing something. A P.A. has FRFR speakers which have a different tonal response than the speakers in a guitar amp.
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On the Joyo I have the Voice around 8-9 o'clock and the gain I don't remember at the moment but its clean
I have to reduce the bass as the PA has a 10in woofer and it can get overly bassy.. and the PA doesn't have EQ (Gemini PA300BT To-Go) So any pedal I use has to have and EQ
I've got a spider 20 MK2 that I could Mic but this sounds better that 8in speaker kills it
I've got a Halloween party to do in Oct...So I've got sometime to experiment and decide if I want to bring the Electric or not...or bring both Electric and acoustic

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The Joyo American Sound is my favorite always-on pedal. HOWEVER it can introduce a lot of hiss if you keep the drive up. I keep mine as low as possible. Even then I use a noise gate (a Donner) most of the time. I like to play as clean as possible so the AS is great if I tame some of its tones.

Still I think you would do better with a dedicated guitar amp rather than a P.A. system unless I'm missing something. A P.A. has FRFR speakers which have a different tonal response than the speakers in a guitar amp.
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Old 08-16-2023, 07:16 AM
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There is no replacement for a good amp. I've been down all the paths and the best non traditional approach I've found that does a great job is a Quilter Superblock US into a speaker cab.
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I wonder if the Bluetooth's will hookup,,,that would be nice

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Mustang Micro will do the job. Here is what’s missing:

Bass tone control which is important if your using the same powered speaker on the floor and pole mounted.

No pre only post volume control. The clean models are set with pre gain high so you must roll back the guitar volume for actual clean.

No 1/4” output. 3.5mm is easily dislodged.

No foot switches.

Course control of reverb and treble eq.

The big pluses are size and battery.
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Old 08-16-2023, 08:37 AM
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I wonder if the Bluetooth's will hookup,,,that would be nice
Bluetooth is input only (for playing along with something).
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I’d recommend a Helix Stomp if it’s in your budget. Great for acoustic and electric, recording, and headphone jamming.
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Old 08-17-2023, 06:24 PM
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Using the Joyo American are there any pedals that would enhance the sound? I mean it sounds pretty good.. and the reverb on the Gemini is really delay
So maybe a:
Compressor?
maybe an acoustic simulator pedal?
Cab simulator?
or maybe run it through the Zoom for effects with the amp sim's off on the Zoom?

LOL any help would be...well helpful
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