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One exactly like that, yes.
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Cotten plays well with others.
By the way, my brother says all those others frets are just there for looks.
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Isn't that why people place "picture" inlays between them?
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I've been reading with great interest all the recommendations friends have been sending my way, many born out of many years of experience. I've enjoyed talking preliminarily with several fine builders. This process is absolutely thrilling - and humbling!
But if you asked me right now what my thoughts were, they would be something close to fear. Fear? Yes! Not that I would make a bad choice or wouldn't be happy with the guitar, but fear that in the process of choosing a fine builder I will be un-choosing many more! Oh, I know that they're all grown ups who are accustomed to being both selected and not selected by customers, but these folks are not just businesses to me. They're friends! The last thing I'd want to do is to disappoint any friend, especially one who has offered to do an exceptional job at no small sacrifice. Some of you understand completely, for you have made your recommendations privately, not wanting to give even the slightest opportunity for offense. I wouldn't want to do that, either, but my choice of builders will be very public, and that brings with it a certain weight. No, not fear exactly, but a realization that I can't order a guitar from each of our fine forum Sponsors. If I could, I would! I'll need all the wisdom I can get, and all the grace and understanding I can get from my Sponsor friends, especially those that I have to un-select. Wow! I can't believe I'm even whining about such a thing! cotten |
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Tough life. Ain't it? Ya whiner. It doesn't matter who you pick to make your new toy, Cotten. What matters is that you well deserve the guitar of your choice. As you can tell, some of us are enjoying riding out this part of the adventure with you. You really are quite the guy, and we won't let you worry too much.To solve this dilemma have Phil (Riorider) build the guitar! (Phil, you can smack me later. )
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Some advice:
If possible play an example or two of the prospective Luthier's guitars. Not always possible so it shouldn't rule any person out. Also talk privately with some past customers of theirs and feel them out. Try to express and show examples of your playing style. It helps the builder get an idea of how to work your instrument. Discuss Neck shapes, scale lengths, body depth ect to make sure the instrument is comfortable to your personal geometry. Examples of necks you like is helpful. See how available the luthier is for questions, calls, e-mails. So that you know what to expect, communication wise. When it comes to upgrading features focus on the tone improving details more than the eye candy. Find out a builders philosophy on design and what they do to go about getting the best out of each instrument. Check the credentials of the builder. ie: How long have they been building. How many guitars have they built. Who have the studied under, or worked with, and what they learned from doing so. There's much more of course, but some ideas..... |
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Hi, John. I'll PM what I have to say... but you might be surprised.
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So just to throw the odd-duck suggestion out there, how about this:
Spec what you think might be your ideal guitar. Could be as simple as just saying, as you did, "This is my kind of playing style". Or you could get specific and pick the woods, the figure of the grain, the appointments, etc. Open it up to any AGF sponsors to build you the best guitar based on the information you give then wrap it all up with an all-AGF get together (maybe in Istanbul ) where you will pick your favorite. Now this, of course, is suggested by someone who does not know the guitar business and has no idea how easy or difficult it is to sell a spec guitar when they've got their own money invested. And it also means you'll have to pick one in the end. But man, that'd be a party to come to and in the mean time we'd have some killer build threads in the custom section |
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Okay...so we all agree there is a plethora of fine builders out there. I would narrow it down to 5 luthiers and find out who can get your guitar started. No point picking someone who is 2 years out!
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Lots of great builders meet your specvs as stated. Don't forgte to consider Froggy Bottom Guitars who build about 50% of their instruments as custom orders and are at the top of your pricelist.
That said, you should also consider what you can buy for $5k o the preowned market which is plenty. hans
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Thanks, handers, but as this guitar is the result of donations by my AGF friends (http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/f...d.php?t=192789), I decided early on that it would be a new guitar, not a pre-loved one, and that I would limit my choice of builders to those who help support this community as Sponsors.
If I were ready to just go out and spend $5,000 or so of my own dollars on a guitar (like that would be possible these days!), I may well consider your advice. But this is for a special occasion, a very special award. I'm happy with the few choices I've already made. jeastman, your idea of having all our Sponsors build me a guitar and then letting me choose would be a lot of fun - for me - but I don't know how practical that would be from their standpoint. Building a custom guitar to someone's specifications represents a big investment of time, energy, expertise and money, and I suspect that not many of our builders would be willing to risk having built a guitar that only people like me would buy. cpabolting, good point. Our Sponsor luthiers are a busy bunch, and while I certainly wouldn't expect a commissioned guitar to arrive in six weeks, I probably wouldn't want to wait till our 20th Anniversary to receive it, either. Just another factor to be considered. Actually, riorider has said that while the donations for this guitar have been substantial, and I'll add tremendously appreciated, the total so far remains a good bit short of the $5,000 goal. This impacts the decision, too. So until I have a clearer picture of the amount I'll have to offer a luthier, I'm holding off on trying to make much progress on the selection process. Oh, but I can dream, and I'm thoroughly enjoying revisiting our Sponsors' web sites, with a bit different perspective this time. Regardless of whether they might see themselves commissioning a custom guitar any time soon, I would encourage each AGFer to spend some time getting to know the products and services of each of our AGF Sponsors. They be Good Folks! cotten |
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+5 on that one Cotten. When I was looking to commission a guitar I e-mailed mostly AGF sponsors and the response was great what wonderful people our AGF Luthiers are. It was a real challenge choosing one but eventually everything lined up and pointed firmly at Peter M from Cornerstone. But that was for me and my discussions, decisions and conditions - yours may be different.
I must say that I have and am enjoying every minute of the build process ( started early August). |
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I'm not quite sure why you would want to limit yourself to those builder only who are sponsors of this website. Most of the good folks here I know to some degree, and they're fine builders and people, but there are a lot of other builders out there besides these few who make exceptional instruments. This site barely scratches the surface.
Why limit yourself? What if the best guitar out there for you is made by someone else, and for less money? |