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I see you have chosen not to embrace my truss rod technique, I'm very okay with that (nice little story though, albeit ridiculous). What about having to take the neck off to adjust one? Still a fan of that?
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It appears that you are either unable or unwilling to substantiate your belief when presented with rational exploration of it. Quote:
How about you? Do you refuse to do repairs on guitars whose designs are "too stupid" for you to work on or that require using techniques you don't "embrace"? Last edited by charles Tauber; 08-17-2013 at 08:55 AM. |
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Truss Rod Adjustment
I feel compelled to jump in here...not sure why, though. Interesting conversation (or should I say debate) between 2 individuals, and many AFG members just sit by to see how things play out...not me.
I acquired a guitar some time ago that had fret buzz all the way up and down the entire fretboard. Sighting down the neck, I could see that dreaded "hump" where the body and neck are joined. I knew from my own experience that the truss rod was way too tight. I backed it off 2 full turns, when the nut got very loose, but I could still see the hump. I decided to wait a few days, to do some research online, and over a week passed when I returned to this problem. In that time, the hump had disappeared, and I could see the neck now had a slight cupping. The fret buzz had also miraculously been eliminated, as well. And the nut was not as loose as it was the previous week. I then began tightening the nut until the neck was dead flat, and checked to see if there were any frets that were either too high or too low. Charles, you might recall a conversation we had some time ago about fret buzz. While I'm still confused about what you said, if it works for you, go for it. Then, I set the relief and the action was good, so I just left it alone. Took the rest of the day off. So, as you can see there are many roads to travel to get to one's destination, and no matter which route you take, short or long (the high road or the low road, so to speak) the journey is interesting, right? Ok, now for more entertaining conversation. Glen
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Someone pass the popcorn...
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Like my question about ASCAP license this has generated quite a bit of "discussion". I've been playing for 40+ years. I've owned 11 guitars in that time, 7 right now. The oldest (at the moment) is a 1999 Santa Cruz. I've never needed a truss rod or any other neck or saddle adjustment in all that time. The Santa Cruz neck is as straight and the action is a nice as the day I bought it (used in 2001). Am I too tolerant of my guitar necks, have I been lucky, or are neck adjustment that unusual?
BTW: What GREAT place to find out stuff!!!
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Stupid Truss Rod Location: Would never buy one because, their stupid. Once again you have made up a little story about being presented one you don't own. Originally, you advocated it's location as our forefathers could never be wrong. Changing your mind as it suits you, not good enough. |
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Here's what actually happened: One person stated that he can't think of any reason to not adjust a truss rod with the strings at full tension. I gave one example where it isn't possible. At no time have I advocated anything regarding where the adjustment should or shouldn't be. At no time did I make any judgement about what our forefathers did or didn't do or its being right or wrong, or what people currently should or shouldn't do. Nor did I call any design stupid - or smart, for that matter. I simply stated that there are circumstances wherein it isn't possible to make the adjustment at full tension. I stated that in those cases, I do what is necessary to make the adjustment. If that involves taking the tension off the strings to make the adjustment, so be it. Feel free to re-read this thread and point out where you believe I have stated what you claim. Please read carefully and accurately what was actually written. The question still remains: you have never needed to make a truss rod adjustment on a guitar who's truss rod nut cannot be accessed without removing string tension? And, how would you make the adjustment on such an instrument? You state: Quote:
Oh, and pass the popcorn, please. I know, I know, I really should find a more productive form of entertainment. Last edited by charles Tauber; 08-17-2013 at 03:09 PM. |
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And we wonder why Congress can't pass a law. Three pages on adjusting a truss rod!
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Thanks for the tango, this place can get so boring, I needed that. |
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That location might not be my first choice, but if I liked the guitar otherwise, that alone would not stop me from buying it. As far as Fenders go, if you like a thick neck on your Telecaster, you're likely to be stuck with that location since their biggest necks are all vintage style and all incorporate that type of truss rod. |
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I had three Fenders in the 60's and their TR arrangement was notorious even then. It's also worth noting I never needed to adjust any of them due to the rigidity of the maple necks and the generally lighter gauge strings used on electrics. |
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Would I work on one? Irrelevant, I said I'd never buy one. |
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You've refused to answer a reasonable question posed by two different people. I think that tells me all I need to know.
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Yet, you remain ill informed on what necks offer the properly placed truss rod accessibility. Read my words and learn, not read my words, misinterpret and have a hissy fit. |
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Last edited by Davis Webb; 08-17-2013 at 11:11 PM. |