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Low E sound played at 12th fret?
On my Taylor 816ce my action is fine and I get no buzz anywhere on fretboard so action is perfect. However, when I play my low E string at 12th fret (not a harmonic) I get a short thumping tone rather than a sustaining ringing tone as on other frets. It's like other string harmonics and/or body resonance are cancelling it out. I have changed strings multiple times and it remains. I also get this same phenomenon on my D string at 3rd fret and a little at 2nd fret but not as bad. Anyone have any ideas?
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2014 Yamaha LL16 ARE 2010 Taylor 816ce + Factory installed Gotoh 510 tuners + Bob Colosi WAHI Saddle 2010 Martin LXK2 + Self installed Gotoh 510 1:21 chrome tuners with small buttons (SGV510Z-S5-L3+R3-C) 1973 Yamaha FG-200 + Bob Colosi WAHI Saddle + Gotoh 510 1:21 antique gold tuners |
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Oh yeah, I have a Colosi WAHI saddle and play Medium Elixr PB Nanowebs.
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2014 Yamaha LL16 ARE 2010 Taylor 816ce + Factory installed Gotoh 510 tuners + Bob Colosi WAHI Saddle 2010 Martin LXK2 + Self installed Gotoh 510 1:21 chrome tuners with small buttons (SGV510Z-S5-L3+R3-C) 1973 Yamaha FG-200 + Bob Colosi WAHI Saddle + Gotoh 510 1:21 antique gold tuners |
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Whwn was your guitar last set up maybe it needs a little tweaking?
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I am going to swap between the stock Tusq and Taylor Wavecomp bone saddle I have for it and see if saddle makes a difference, then, if that doesn't change it I will try 80/20 strings. Will let you know the outcome. Would like to hear from other 816ce owners if this is common due to GS body size and tone woods used.
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2014 Yamaha LL16 ARE 2010 Taylor 816ce + Factory installed Gotoh 510 tuners + Bob Colosi WAHI Saddle 2010 Martin LXK2 + Self installed Gotoh 510 1:21 chrome tuners with small buttons (SGV510Z-S5-L3+R3-C) 1973 Yamaha FG-200 + Bob Colosi WAHI Saddle + Gotoh 510 1:21 antique gold tuners |
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Ok, switched back to Tusq saddle and no change in particular string/fret combination. Going to try a set of 80/20's now. Anybody have any ideas?
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2014 Yamaha LL16 ARE 2010 Taylor 816ce + Factory installed Gotoh 510 tuners + Bob Colosi WAHI Saddle 2010 Martin LXK2 + Self installed Gotoh 510 1:21 chrome tuners with small buttons (SGV510Z-S5-L3+R3-C) 1973 Yamaha FG-200 + Bob Colosi WAHI Saddle + Gotoh 510 1:21 antique gold tuners |
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mine is totally stock and while the E at the 12th does not ring quite as good as lower frets( which is common) it still has decent sustain.the D string isa fine. I have had some wood instuments do that at specific frets. can by construction etc. one of the only guitars I had where pretty muc every note was clear and sustained with out any choking anywhere was the Carbon fiber one I had.
how long have you owned the guitar and how much do you play. I had an 814CE that I had a few notes especially on the ow E actually sound muted. Around the 9th fret. Well took it in to the shop and the teck did a light fret level and WALLA it played up and down better than it had EVER palyed even new.
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Hey, glad you showed up. I switched 3 saddles Three sets of string (epoxy 80/20, PBs, and D'darrio 8020. Same sound.
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forgot to mention I only had my 814CE a year and did a light fret level on it. Like I said only like 2 notes espcially the 9th fret low E sounded like it was muted some. the teck looked down the neck and saw the high fret. ( I could NOT see it LOL) well he did a light fret level and that thing played better than new!
PS oh ya make sure you check all the nuts at the tuning pegs. I find that many guitars come a tad loose. I had already had to tighten up the ones on my 816CE a bit. fairly vital that even the tuning machines are anchored SOLID to keep away from unwanted stray frequencies or dead notes.
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"one of the only guitars I had where pretty muc every note was clear and sustained with out any choking anywhere was the Carbon fiber one I had."
+1 The dead notes may be caused by wolf tones . There was a thread about it not too long ago. I'll see if I can find it.
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Yeah, I made sure the tuner pegs were tight. I just strung it with D'dario EXP 80/20's and although wound strings are brighter the same thump-tone is still on the low E at 12th fret. I am going to put my last set of Elixr PB's back on it and will be vacationing in Pigeon Forge, TN this coming weekend and I will stop by Smoky Mountain Guitar in Pigeon Forge to let them look at it to see if they can give any ideas and also look at their nice inventory.
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I am pretty new to this so "wolf tones" is new but I will take a look around and see what I can find concerning it as well.
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It might be a shot in the dark, but take your battery out and see if things improve. I had a problem once with some strange buzzing tones, really drove me nuts. I've found that some batteries in the black holders vibrated at certain frequencies. I wrap my batteries with a little tape to make sure they don't rattle when I play. I make sure they have a snug fit in the compartment.
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Here's the wolf tone thread. You are not alone
http://69.41.173.82/forums/showthrea...ight=wolf+tone
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