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Taylor GS Mini: ES-T vs ES-2
The older "e" versions of the GS Mini included an onboard ES-T, single sensor pickup. The newer ones now have the full ES-2 with two sensors. Has anyone played both versions plugged in? If not, how about any Taylors with those pickups. How much better (if at all) is the ES-2 or the T? Thanks!
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I'm have to say I find the ES-T easier to EQ. I has a GS Mini with the ES-t and with a bit of EQ I could get a reasonable live sound. There are much better USTs out there. I play exclusively with a plectrum...
I've now got a Big Baby with the ES2 pickups and with my style of play it sounds very harsh and I struggle to get a nice sound unless I change my style and play with flesh. Taylor suggested adjusting the hex screws it was no different. I've ended up using a soundhole pickup to resolve the problem. That said I personally would buy a standard GS Mini and put a pickup in of my choice as there are so many better options than Taylors standard offerings.
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I'd definitely try before you buy though if your planning to plug it in a lot. Acoustically though Taylor seems to be really consistent.
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I have one of the newer 3 sensor Expression systems in my Koa Mini and it's one of my favorite guitars plugged in.
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I'll second the above opinion, my Koa Mini with ES2 sounds way better plugged in than my old rosewood ES-T equipped version. The ES-T in both the Mini and a 114 I used to own could sound very harsh, almost brittle without tons of EQ. I can plug the new ES2 Mini straight into the PA, roll off just a bit of bass, and get a terrific sound.
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Definitely need to go hear one plugged into a Loudbox!
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I'm not saying the ES-T is great. Far from it. I would get one without and stick a K&K in
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A few months after I started this thread, I pulled the trigger on a GS Mini-e with Rosewood b&s and the (then new to the model) ES-2. I've been quite happy with the sound plugged in, although it's not in the league of my CFox concert w/ Trance Amulet MV.
I was very surprised to see that just 1 year after upgrading the GS Mini pickups to the same model as their higher-end lines, Taylor now replaced the ES-2 with the ES-B. I believe it has 2 sensors instead of the ES-2's 3, a tone knob instead of discrete treble & bass, and worst of all (IMO) is the return of the barn door on the side of the guitar in order to fit in a built-in tuner. While I'm glad I picked up my ES-2 Mini when I did, I can't help feeling that Taylor's taken a big step backwards here. It does appear that some of the older models are out there still as new, so those on the fence about a Mini should think about whether it's time to grab one.
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Did you take a picture inside the guitar? Cuki
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I had read that to mean there were only 2 sensors. However, clicking on the guide to using the ES-B leads you to a page that reads, "The heart of the ES-B is Taylor’s patented behind-the-saddle pickup, which features three uniquely positioned and individually calibrated piezo sensors." I was thrown off by the ® after "Expression System;" it's the Expression System 2's piezo design elements, of which there are 3 sensors. The only thing the ES-B loses is the separate treble & bass controls. I still prefer the ES-2 because of that, but it's far less of a change than I imagined. Thanks for getting me to re-read their web site!
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