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Dust In The Wind
Hi all! I'm a beginner who started about 3 months ago and last week began learning this song. I appreciate its going to take some time so not expecting to have it down already but the change from G (bottom string 3rd fret with 3rd finger) to Dm7 (barring top two strings with 1st finger and 2nd finger on 3rd string) I find particularly challenging and I wondered if others also found it difficult when they were a beginner? I'm playing it slowly with metronome but even at 60 bpm (quite a lot slower than the song which is at 94 bpm) I struggle to make that particular change accurately.
I appreciate different people find different things challenging but interested to hear how others got on with this when they first learnt it and how long they had been playing before attempting it. I am not playing any of the vocal melodies just the travis picking underlying parts. Thanks in advance! |
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I had trouble with this transition when I first learned it as well. You'll get there with practice. One thing that will help is if you transition to the DM7 in advance - so after you strike the G you should lift your fretting hand and be moving to the DM7 while you are plucking the open B, D, and G strings. With a little more practice you'll get it.
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I'm also a beginner and I'm also learning Dust in the Wind. The arrangement I am learning doesn't have a G -> Dm7 transition, but it does have one that is similar.
I find it much easier to do this transition if I play the G chord using fingers 2, 3, and 4. Middle finger on the A string, Ring finger on the low E string, and pinky on the high E.
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I would concentrate on mastering the basic chords before attempting partial or full barre chords.
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Yes, the Dm7 is easy to muffle. This may sound strange, but try using your 2nd and 4th fingers -- I find this makes it easier to get clean notes.
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Fair advice although I can already play several barre chords (mainly F and playing A as a barre) along with all the basic chords. My teacher gave me the song to get on with and I don't think it's over ambitious given I'm only working on the basic travis picking elements not the vocal melodies... yet! A beginner will never master anything (does anyone?!) so they would end up never moving forward learning new things as they mistakenly believe they should only move on when they've mastered the thing before!
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On the G > Dm7 transition, I just finger low G with my ring finger, since no other fretted notes are needed. That allows me to poise index and middle for the Dm7 beforehand. The hardest part for me to coordinate was shifting my right fingers over a string, from index on the D string to the G string. [I play with thumb and three fingers. That becomes thumb plus two on chords like D and F, when the bass is on D and G strings.]
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Thanks for message. Just tried that but find that much much more awkward! It's getting better will just keep at it at slower pace and build it up. I'm re-assured others have found it a tricky change and my guitar is pleased as it was getting close to being smashed into the side of my house!
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Yeah -- it is awkward, and I don't do it unless I focus on it. Just a question of doing what's needed for clean notes. We all have different hands, so sometimes something out of the ordinary is needed.
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-1- middle -1- index -2- ring -0- --- --- There is an occasional melody note on 3rd fret 1st string, which is more difficult that way (pinky), but if I was playing that I might play as in Sungha Jung's arrangement, on a plain Dm.
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I've been using Dm not Dm7 for about 35 years !
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One thing that can make playing in open position a little more difficult is the nut. The slots often are left too high, requiring extra pressure at the the first fret. It can make it harder to do that little barre for Dm7, which should require very little pressure. High nut slots also make the barred first-position F harder than it needs to be, and can cause other little issues, such as more difficult hammers.
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