The Acoustic Guitar Forum

Go Back   The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Custom Shop

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 07-18-2014, 07:34 PM
alnico5 alnico5 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 1,110
Default pictures of acoustics with maple fret boards

I'd like to see some if they exist. And if they don't exist, why not?
__________________
I don't have a bunch of guitars because they all sound just like me.

1984 Carvin LB-40 bass
1986 Carvin DC-125 two humbucker
1996 Taylor 412
La Patrie Concert
2012 American Standard Telecaster
1981 Carvin DC 100
Harley Benton LP JR DC
Bushman Delta Frost & Suzuki harmonicas
Artley flute
Six-plus decade old vocal apparatus
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-18-2014, 11:49 PM
Badcrumble Badcrumble is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 115
Default

I've only ever seen a tanglewood acoustic with maple fretboard.
I expect that a maple fretboard would discolour and look rather bad after a bit of playing.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-19-2014, 04:15 PM
alnico5 alnico5 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 1,110
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Badcrumble View Post
I've only ever seen a tanglewood acoustic with maple fretboard.
I expect that a maple fretboard would discolour and look rather bad after a bit of playing.
That doesn't seem to be a problem with the owners of tens of thousands of electric guitars, but there must be a reason why maple isn't used on acoustics. I wish I knew what the reason was.
__________________
I don't have a bunch of guitars because they all sound just like me.

1984 Carvin LB-40 bass
1986 Carvin DC-125 two humbucker
1996 Taylor 412
La Patrie Concert
2012 American Standard Telecaster
1981 Carvin DC 100
Harley Benton LP JR DC
Bushman Delta Frost & Suzuki harmonicas
Artley flute
Six-plus decade old vocal apparatus
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-19-2014, 06:38 PM
Itzkinguitars Itzkinguitars is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 488
Default

Michihiro Matsuda built a guitar with a birdseye maple fretboard. It's quite striking.

__________________
https://www.itzkinguitars.com
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-20-2014, 07:04 AM
PeterF PeterF is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Pembrokeshire, Wales
Posts: 65
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by alnico5 View Post
That doesn't seem to be a problem with the owners of tens of thousands of electric guitars, but there must be a reason why maple isn't used on acoustics. I wish I knew what the reason was.
That's probably why you don't - because it's associated with electric guitars!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-20-2014, 07:05 AM
PeterF PeterF is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Pembrokeshire, Wales
Posts: 65
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by henderson is go View Post
Michihiro Matsuda built a guitar with a birdseye maple fretboard. It's quite striking.

Gorgeous guitar! I've played it and it really is incredible.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-20-2014, 07:34 AM
charles Tauber charles Tauber is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 8,381
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by alnico5 View Post
I wish I knew what the reason was.
I'll tell you why I won't use very light-colored woods for fingerboards. I view it similarly to wearing all white clothing to go out and do gardening - just not a very practical idea.

First, unless it is finished, a light-colored fingerboard will turn grey/black with dirt and finger oils.

Second, if finished with a lacquer-like finish - a surface finish, rather than a penetrating finish (e.g. oil) - it is a lot of work to make and maintain. Many older electric guitars with finished maple fingerboards have the finish chipped, peeling or worn through in places. Where the finish is missing, the fingerboard is discoloured - not a look I prefer in an aged instrument.

Third, if finished, it takes more effort to do fret work on them.

Fourth, maple doesn't wear as well as other harder woods.

Fifth, any gaps involved in joinery or inlay fitting are very difficult to cosmetically hide: fit has to be perfect. If not, gaps appear as obvious black lines/voids and inlay filler materials never match the wood perfectly. Ebony, for example, is very easy to cosmetically touch-up.

In summary, there is no positive reason for me to use maple for fingerboards - other than being inexpensive, or if one wants a light-colored fingerboard. But there are a number of negatives in using it. For me, the negatives far outweigh any positives.

Last edited by charles Tauber; 07-20-2014 at 08:19 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-20-2014, 07:55 AM
J-F C J-F C is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Trois-Rivières, Qc
Posts: 421
Default

Clear and informative.

Thank you Charles.
__________________
« I don't feel I'm a musician. I create sounds that are reflections of my emotions. To be a musician is something quite different. »
- Mike Oldfield

https://soundcloud.com/user-254253822

http://members.soundclick.com/Jean%2DFrancois+Champoux
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-20-2014, 01:29 PM
Hierophant Hierophant is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 208
Default

I used maple a lot on my first acoustic. Has an interesting look and an incredibly fast attack due to the maple bridge and the lightly braced red cedar top. Back and sides are made of walnut. The neck (three piece, maple/walnut/maple) and the peghead veneer are maple too.



But I do admit that Charles is right with his criticism, there are a quite a few disadvantages with maple fretboards.

Last edited by Hierophant; 07-20-2014 at 01:43 PM. Reason: Picture added
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-20-2014, 03:21 PM
Eholay Eholay is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 69
Default

[QUOTE=Hierophant;4048047]I used maple a lot on my first acoustic. Has an interesting look and an incredibly fast attack due to the maple bridge and the lightly braced red cedar top. Back and sides are made of walnut. The neck (three piece, maple/walnut/maple) and the peghead veneer are maple too.



Wow! that cedar guitar is saweet!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-21-2014, 12:07 AM
Hierophant Hierophant is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 208
Default

Thanks .

Btw.: I found (when building electric guitars) that an elastic laquer on a maple fretboards is better in terms of durability than a hard and stiff finish because the latter tends to chip off more easily on the fretboard (other than on the rest of the guitar where I would prefer a hard curing finish).
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-21-2014, 08:23 AM
alnico5 alnico5 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 1,110
Default

Thanks for the input. The reasons sound legit. I'll see how my Telecaster's maple board ages.
__________________
I don't have a bunch of guitars because they all sound just like me.

1984 Carvin LB-40 bass
1986 Carvin DC-125 two humbucker
1996 Taylor 412
La Patrie Concert
2012 American Standard Telecaster
1981 Carvin DC 100
Harley Benton LP JR DC
Bushman Delta Frost & Suzuki harmonicas
Artley flute
Six-plus decade old vocal apparatus
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-21-2014, 10:05 AM
Hierophant Hierophant is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 208
Default

And one more thing: a lacquered fretboard can feel very fast, just like a very smooth polished ebony fretboard.

A blond alternative for maple is satinwood. It's harder than maple, it is resistant to water and you can polish it as good as ebony. That means that you do not have to lacquer it, it will stay bright and it looks similar to aged maple.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-23-2014, 05:59 PM
billder99 billder99 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Baja Sur, Mexico
Posts: 2,720
Default

I'm just guessing here, but it seems like it would be reasonably easy to keep an unfinished maple fretboard clean. 0000 steel wool cleans goop off of wood quickly and easily. Once a year would do the trick if you simply wash your hands before playing your instrument. I LOVE maple fretboards on electrics, even old and worn ones... the look has character. I have also wondered why they don't do it on acoustics. Charles observations are good, but I think the downside can be mostly overcome with a small bit of care.
__________________
_________________________________________
The Tree: I was alive in the forest, I was cut by the cruel axe. In life I was silent, In death I sweetly sing.

Now back living in Baja Sur where I started my carbon fiber journey... Bend OR was too cold!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-24-2014, 10:35 AM
Hierophant Hierophant is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 208
Default

I'm afraid this will not work very well. Maple get's gray very quickly when it is in contact with water. The sweat on our fingers is enough to make it look very ugly very soon. If you get the chance, take a piece of maple, sand it up to 400 grit, it will feel very smooth. Then put your pointer finger into some water, touch the wood, wipe away the water. The wood will feel rough again because the grain is swelling immediatly.

Last edited by Hierophant; 07-24-2014 at 11:14 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Custom Shop






All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:40 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, The Acoustic Guitar Forum
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=