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09-05-2015, 12:45 PM
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Yeah man, I seen them alligator lizards too...  Of course, it could be a "mondegreen". You know like that famous Bob Dylan song "The ants are my friends, they're blowing in the wind". Or Desmond Dekker's reggae classic "My ears are alight".
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09-05-2015, 01:00 PM
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There is also a great free course on Coursera - led by Pat Pattison. As far as I know it is now 'on demand' and it is very good. At the very least you will gain an insight into an educational process of teaching songwriting.
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09-05-2015, 10:16 PM
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 I thought of trying out lyrics on our dog, but I think it was Jerry Seinfeld who said something about "You can say the stupidest thing to a dog, and the dog will look at you like 'You know, you're right. I never thought of it that way before.'" 
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09-06-2015, 08:21 AM
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And like many lizards, they do jump... Best....H Last edited by Hank Linderman; 09-06-2015 at 08:28 AM.
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09-06-2015, 09:20 AM
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Well I hauled o-f-t and wrote a song last night (this morning). The 'word soup' was a very effective strategy for this one. I had written down words that related to what I'm feeling and want to relate, then several words to rhyme with each. Several words, just as they came to mind. Then just circled the 'key' words and walked away. When I came back last night it was just a matter of rearranging them and filling them out. As Tom Hulce said in 'Amadeus', "Well your majesty has all the right notes, it's now just a matter of getting them in the right order".
It's mostly spit and polish from here, refining the melody, smoothing the word phrasing, etc. but I could sing it for someone right now and not be embarrassed. As far as audience appeal, who knows? I don't think it's very easy for any artist to know with any certainty how their work will be received. In a sense I don't really care, I wrote the song for me, not someone else. Even though it is a personal song however I think the nature of the experience and the feelings expressed will be familiar to many people which as mentioned above is a key consideration. Thanks to all the advice and encouragement here for this. I'll be archiving this thread for continued gleaning, I used and combined maybe three or four bits of advice out of the many, and each song may call for a different approach. The 'Stuart Smalley' bit helped too. This post was obviously just a momentary rant, I'm not in the habit of calling all my output 'garbage', but it was also the frustrated manifestation of the real internal dialog which was "How will I EVER accomplish this goal? How will I ever write something good enough to be called a song?" I've overcome that internal doubt with singing and with many other aspects of music and life, it was high time to put it to rest with song writing. Most importantly it was fun. I will continue to do this.
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09-06-2015, 10:08 AM
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I was beat incomplete I'd been had, I was sad and blue But you made me feel Yeah, you made me feel Shiny and new Like a virgin Touched for the very first time Like a virgin When your heart beats Next to mine Just joshin'! Keep the faith! 
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09-06-2015, 11:57 PM
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Trillion, I can sooo relate! I, too, am a pretty good writer of prose, and I
have written some poetry. But writing songs? Music and lyrics , making it all fit together? I have the utmost respect and admiration for those who can do this! My ex-husband could. He would just sit down with his guitar and pretty soon he'd be singing a new song! People get up at this open mic where I perform and say they're going to play an original.. I would love to be able to say that, but I doubt it will ever happen.
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09-08-2015, 05:35 PM
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09-08-2015, 07:53 PM
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. The time has to be right for you, but you never know! In the past I wanted to write songs because I felt it was 'expected' of a musician. Wrong reason... I eventually let it go and was happy playing other's music (because, Play Music!), arranging, improvising, teaching... All things I'm good at. I never thought I'd be a 'singer' either, but singing every day as part of your job has a way of improving you. It also tends to make you more aware of lyrics, obviously. Then I wanted to write a song not because it's 'expected', but because I felt I had something in me that I wanted to get out, and it had to be in a song. THAT'S a reason to write a song. I don't know if I have 3 songs in me, or 30, or 300. It doesn't really matter, it's part of the journey of self discovery, a lifelong journey. Have fun on YOUR journey!
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09-12-2015, 04:00 PM
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Untitled (A poem about writing songs – badly) This winter’s cold It’s keeping you inside Only so much to do So you go for a ride Down the same old streets To the same old stores Looking for an interest You’re bored down to your core You find your way home, Play a few tunes Looking through your music Try to write your own It doesn’t go well Nothing sounds right Boxes of desire But every word a fight Shrug it off again Lean back a while Wad up wasted paper Add it to the pile Try a different tuning Maybe spark a mood Or stir up inspiration But it still sounds just as crude There’s always covers Everyone likes those They’re easier to do And not as hard on your nose You gotta face the truth You writing’s taken ill Your only fans’ a cockroach Soon to die on the window sill
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09-12-2015, 04:37 PM
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